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more on Media Companies Go Too Far in Curbing Consumers' Activities
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:50:36 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Gerry Faulhaber <gerry-faulhaber () mchsi com> Date: October 26, 2005 3:37:34 PM EDT To: dave () farber netSubject: Re: [IP] more on Media Companies Go Too Far in Curbing Consumers' Activities
Dave [for IP if you wish]--iTunes makes it perfectly clear that their downloads only work in iPods. Did the writer not read the terms of use? Read it but decided to complain anyway? If you don't like the deal, then go with Rhapsody. But don't use it as an excuse to download copyrighted music for free. Whether you agree with the law or not, it is a violation of the law.
Apple has been fairly clear that their business model is to make money on the iPod and use iTunes as the loss leader. This is a fairly typical retail strategy and I see nothing objectionable about it (whether it will be successful in the long run is another question, but that's Apple's problem, not mine, nor yours). But its execution requires that iTunes only play on the iPod.
There are legal competitors out there, guys. Use your freedom of choice.
Gerry Faulhaber ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Farber" <dave () farber net> To: "Ip Ip" <ip () v2 listbox com> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 4:15 PMSubject: [IP] more on Media Companies Go Too Far in Curbing Consumers' Activities
Begin forwarded message: From: lee.h.elliott () accenture com Date: October 24, 2005 9:40:55 AM EDT To: dave () farber netSubject: RE: [IP] Media Companies Go Too Far in Curbing Consumers' ActivitiesAs a personal example of this, I purchased a song from iTunes for the first time the other day. Foolishly I thought that I would be able to listen to my song on my Creative Zen MP3 player, but it is not an iPodso I can not. I guess I could go through the whole routine of burning a CD then ripping the song off the CD and importing to my Zen, but I think it is far easier to go to one of the P2P networks and download a copy ofthe song that I already own that doesn't have DRM. This follows on several of the themes that are being pursued by IP recently. The cell phone issue is the same as the DRM issue: the consumer is not allowed to use the technology/product that they have legally purchased in the way that they want to. I have an AT&T phone that works on the Rogers Network (Canadian) but they won't activate itbecause it is from the US. They will sell me the exact same phone, butwon't let me use the one I have.Everyone keeps talking about the eventual revolution when the consumers finally wake up to what is going on, but I think the main issue is thatthe people 'in the know' are the ones on the fringes of society. The majority of the consumers are happy to buy the computer with a 'DRM enabled' Intel chip because it is on sale, or keep their existing cell phone plan because they 'have to'.With all the consolidation that is happening with the major corporations (look at Sony as not only the manufacturer of the wonderful gear we use, but as the supplier of the content as well) they are going to put theseconsumer unfriendly technologies in place. How long can we at thefringes hold out? How do we make the 'masses' aware of what's going onand organize the proper revolt? Lee Lee Elliott Manager, Communications & High Technology e:Lee.H.Elliott () Accenture com o:416.641.3284 c:647.299.1731 aim: LeeElliottACN -----Original Message----- From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:49 AM To: Ip Ip Subject: [IP] Media Companies Go Too Far in Curbing Consumers' Activities Begin forwarded message: From: Monty Solomon <monty () roscom com> Date: October 24, 2005 12:59:11 AM EDT To: undisclosed-recipient:; Subject: Media Companies Go Too Far in Curbing Consumers' Activities October 20, 2005 Media Companies Go Too Far in Curbing Consumers' Activities By WALTER S. MOSSBERG In some quarters of the Internet, the three most hated letters of the alphabet are DRM. They stand for Digital Rights Management, a set of technologies for limiting how people can use the music and video files they've purchased from legal downloading services. DRM is even beingused to limit what you can do with the music you buy on physical CDs, orthe TV shows you record with a TiVo or other digital video recorder. Once mainly known inside the media industries and among activists who follow copyright issues, DRM is gradually becoming familiar to average consumers, who are increasingly bumping up against its limitations. DRM is computer code that can be embedded in music and video files to dictate how these files are used. The best-known example is the music Apple Computer sells at its iTunes Music Store. Using a DRM system itinvented called FairPlay, Apple has rigged its songs, at the insistence of the record companies, so that they can be played only on a maximum offive computers, and so that you can burn only seven CDs containing thesame playlist of purchased tracks. If Apple hadn't done this, the recordlabels wouldn't have allowed it to sell their music. DRM systems are empty vessels -- they can enforce any rules copyrightholders choose, or no rules at all. Apple's DRM rules are liberal enough that few consumers object to them. In fact, obtaining relatively liberalDRM rules from the labels was the key to Apple's success in selling music. But some other uses of DRM technology aren't so benign. ... http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20051020.html ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lee.h.elliott () accenture com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.------------------------------------- You are subscribed as gerry-faulhaber () mchsi com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ipArchives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- people/
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