more on Six Things you need to know about Bubble 2.0

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: Tim O'Reilly <tim () oreilly com>
Date: October 14, 2005 5:34:56 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Six Things you need to know about Bubble 2.0



On Oct 13, 2005, at 6:27 AM, David Farber wrote:

Dave, while I agree that the chatter in and around our Web 2.0  
conference definitely has had some frothiness in it, and some of the  
folks that Orlowski skewers in the piece below may be waxing too  
lyrical, this is yellow journalismi:  find the outliers, and attack  
them to make a point.  Even though the points that he makes about  
closed networks are good, he unnecessarily trashes the idea of "Web  
2.0" without ever giving an accurate rendition of how those of us who  
find it a useful concept are thinking about it.

I wrote a long essay just before the Web 2.0 conference, entitled  
"What is Web 2.0?"  It's available at:

http://www.oreilly.com/go/web2

I'm happy to engage in a debate about the ideas in the piece, but I  
hate to see it dismissed by innuendo.


> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
> Date: October 12, 2005 9:40:21 PM EDT
> Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Six Things you need to know about Bubble 2.0
>
>
> Original URL: <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/07/ 
> six_things_about_the_bubble/>
>
> Six Things you need to know about Bubble 2.0
>
> By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco (andrew.orlowski at  
> theregister.co.uk)
> Published Friday 7th October 2005 02:38 GMT
> Web 2.0 Techno utopian types love their earthy metaphors. The web  
> is a new planet that's being "terraformed (http://www.google.com/ 
> search?q=terraforming+site%3Adoc.weblogs.com&btnG=Search)" before  
> our eyes, one advertising consultant (http://www.searls.com/ 
> srlzgrp.html) likes to say. Or the "web is a garden (http:// 
> www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/07/glenn_edens_profile/)", if you  
> believe Sun Microsystem's director of research.
>
> Even my overgrown garden doesn't have something like this (http:// 
> www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/26/baghdad_smut_and_pain/) lurking in  
> the corner, and I hope there isn't such a horror in yours.
>
> But enough with the hot-tub psycho babble. The future of computer  
> networks is both a lot more promising and a lot more ominous than  
> anything you'll hear at the "Web 2.0" conference in San Francisco  
> this week, where some of the web's horticulturists will be  
> gathering for an evangelical uplift.

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