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more on Neustar to create their own DNS root


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 10:10:52 -0400



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From: Hendrik Rood <Hendrik.Rood () Stratix nl>
Date: October 2, 2005 12:41:44 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: smb () cs columbia edu
Subject: Betr.: [IP] Neustar to create their own DNS root


Prof. Farber,

It seems that this is nothing more or less than a contract re- assignment. The .gprs TLD root of the GSM Association used by GPRS Roaming eXchanges (GRX) is already operational since 2001. The French telecoms regulator ART has commissioned a study in 2003 on the GPRS Roaming exchanges, their networks, their peering relations and the central DNS problem which is available online (summary in English) http://www.art-telecom.fr/publications/etudes/gprs/ang-syn- gprsjuil03.htm .

The existence of a dedicate .gprs root is not a secret. It is mentioned for instance in the service description of GRX-provider Comfone ( http://www.comfone.com/_main_pages/services/data/ service_overview/overview_GRX.pdf ).

Qoute: "Domain Name Service (DNS) allows the resolution of URLs into the IP address of the destination network. Our DNS is set up according to GSMA guidelines and is a mirror of the .gprs Root DNS of GSMA. Synchronisation at regular and standard intervals guarantees that the DNS database is up-to-date."

Comfone is one of todays a commercial peering provider of a GRX- network. A neutral GRX peering point is in operation by the Amsterdam Internet Exchange since spring 2002. In 2004 an Asian neutral peering point was opened in Singapore, operated by PacNet. The fact that Ams-IX was running a private .gprs root for the cellular industry was not a secret to the Internet community. It was presented by Henk Steenman (Ams-IX technical director) and mentioned in the minutes of RIPE41. http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/eix/r41- minutes.html

I have sent a translation of a Dutch article of an interview with Ams- IX managing director Job Witteman, which mentioned the operation of a ..gprs-root at the Ams-IX to ICANNwatch.org on April 05 2002. http://www.icannwatch.org/article.pl?sid=02/04/05/201927&mode=thread

Quote: "Witteman also temporary manages with his AMS-IX the top level domain .GPRS, that exist in practice next to the top level domains .com, ..net and .org. Witteman: 'Due to practical reasons AMS- IX currently administers the domains under the .GPRS-domain - a logical consequence of hosting the .GPRS root servers at AMS-IX. It is however intended to relocate the administrative responsibilities in the long run to the GSM-Association.' "

The press release about the Neustar contract awarded by the GSM Association is just that intended relocation of the administrative responsibilities for the .gprs-root from Ams-IX.

With this background information it is clear that mr. Bellovin has read too much in the carefully worded press release.

The more significant point is off course that a group of very influential market parties in the communications industry has decided not to rely on ICANN and DOC's procedures and prior approval and established a private root with a global reach for networks reaching 1.3 billion subscribers today.

Hendrik Rood
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David Farber <dave () farber net> 30-09-05 15:47:30 >>>



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From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb () cs columbia edu>
Date: September 30, 2005 12:15:11 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Neustar to create their own DNS root


Neustar, a company that should certainly know better, has announced
that they're going to create a .gprs TLD to serve the mobile phone
industry (http://www.neustar.com/pressroom/files/announcements/
ns_pr_09282005.pdf)
This, of course, requires creation of a private root zone, against the
very strong warnings in RFC 2826.  This is not quite as bad as a
general-purpose alternate root, since it's restricted to use by mobile
operators, but it's bad enough.  Here's one possible complication:
suppose some operator decides that some other company is better
qualified than Neustar to operate yet another private TLD.  Which root
should they then subscribe to?  (Yes, this would punish that company
more than Neustar.  It would also leave Neustar in the driver's seat
for any future such private TLDs.)

There may be even more to this situation.  ICANN recently approved
..mobi, which is aimed at consumers and "providers of those products,
services, content, and other items to ... other Providers".  Why aren't
they using .grps.mobi for this?

(Beyond all that, a U.S. diplomat stated in Geneva that the U.S. would
not agree to turn over control of the Internet to the U.N.  "It's not a
negotiating issue. This is a matter of national policy.")

         --Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb



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