more on TiVo to Bring TV to iPod and PSP

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: Ted Nelson <ted () xanadu net>
Date: November 29, 2005 7:38:13 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Cc: tandm () xanadu net, Arthur Bullard <arthur.bullard () oii ox ac uk>,  
xanni () xanadu net
Subject: [IP] more on TiVo to Bring TV to iPod and PSP

Dave,

Brad makes MythTV sound wonderful, and perhaps it is.
 I understand Tivo has been discontinued in the UK.
 My particular need is to digitize hundreds of videos to MP4
 (now that Ipod and PSP make that the low-fi compression
 of choice).

However, I've just done some searching, and MythTV
 appears to conform to the widely-held but never-stated
 "If you don't know Linux you ain't worth shit" philosophy.
 MythTV is effectively unavailable to non-Linux outsiders.
 You have to buy the parts, install it and configure it yourself.
 Shades of ham radio.  Wait a minute, you can buy prebuilt
 ham radios, but not MythTVs.  How come?

There is an incomprehensible MythTV "store" at mythic.tv,
 but the only prebuilt it offers is a $1600 model for HDTV.

Why don't people get it???  There's a MARKET out there, guys!

Ted


Brad Templeton wrote===Subject:
        [IP] more on TiVo to Bring TV to iPod and PSP
   Date:
        Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:00:47 -0500
   From:
        David Farber <dave () farber net>
     To:
        ip () v2 listbox com



-------- Original Message --------
Subject:        Re: [IP] TiVo to Bring TV to iPod and PSP
Date:   Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:14:53 -0800
From:   Brad Templeton <btm () templetons com>
Organization:   http://www.templetons.com/brad
To:     David Farber <dave () farber net>
CC:     mony () roscom com
References:     <4382DBE4.4060708 () farber net>



On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 03:50:44AM -0500, David Farber wrote:
> ALVISO, Calif., Nov. 21 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TiVo Inc.
> (Nasdaq: TIVO), creator of and a leader in television services for  
> digital
> video recorders, today announced an enhancement to its current  
> TiVoToGo
> feature that will allow TiVo subscribers to easily transfer recorded
> television programming to their Apple iPod or PSP devices.

There is something worth noting about annoucements of such "features"
as this.   While it's nice to put a better UI on it, this is not so
much a feature as a removal of a restriction.

With open tools, such as my MythTV box, people would laugh at the
idea of announcing I can now move the video files to other players
(such as my laptop for viewing on the plane) or any other open video
player.   The "feature" is called file copy.   And there are already  
lots
of tools out there to do the other features they name, like automatic
syncing.

People don't realize, in the debate over DRM tools, just how much
they are missing.   Perhaps the fact that the above was "news"
repeated boldly in the daily newspapers and on web sites should
bring this home.

A year ago, I got an email saying an interview with my late father
would be rerun on a TV station in Toronto.  I connected to the mythtv
tv recorder box at my brother's house in Toronto and told it to record
the show.  Later, I compressed it down to a smaller size and transferred
it to my own machine for watching.   This didn't require any special
features (other than the web browser interface that mythtv has had for
a long time).   This is just what open computers do.


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