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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 22:58:04 -0400



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From: Denise Caruso <caruso () hybridvigor org>
Date: June 14, 2005 10:54:58 PM EDT
To: rforno () infowarrior org
Cc: farber () dsl cis upenn edu
Subject: Fwd: [IP] RFI: MacOSX Tiger 10.4 Opinions/Feedback


rick (and dave) - this is my experience with tiger, too. i admit to a little bit of a 'grrr' and not the kind they'd hoped for, i think. right after i installed it i thought something was terribly wrong with my machine. i haven't hacked around much on it yet, i just installed a couple of days ago, but was getting the beach ball a LOT, which makes me very nervous. one mac-hack friend said it may have been because tiger was still trying to archive everything, and that i should let it run without closing the lid for a day. it's been relatively OK since then except when i try to print, which generally makes me think i'm at the beach again, or launch a new app, which takes for-evah. for $150 i admit i was kind of hoping for a performance improvement.

i could easily live without the widgets, since i have to actually go to them and use them (shouldn't they just be on the desktop? or in the menu bar?) unlike this new widget, the dictionary in sherlock was great - you could just keep it open all the time and toggle to it without having to dark everything else you were doing. and what good is a countdown calendar if you can only see it when you actually go to look at it? man, i need my reminders to be a lot more in my face than THAT.

i do think spotlight does a better job than sherlock for finding files -- i couldn't find things i KNEW were there with sherlock, the little bastid -- but one bizarre thing with spotlight is that you can't add folders for it to index (or at least i couldn't easily figure out how to). this is a pain in the ass for me, as i still use eudora (i know, i know) and all my email is archived in the system folder -- in the system *9* system folder, no less (i know, i KNOW) -- which makes it unsearchable. at least with sherlock you could add the folder no matter where it was. even if it couldn't find it once you added it. hee.

oh, and thanks for the heads up about the rev to safari -- i hadn't checked it out. i do a lot of research and if they hadn't added that feature which includes the URL on the doc/PDF page i would have truly committed hari kiri. thank god!! i can't tell you how much time i spent over the past three years until firefox came out, cutting and pasting URLs into exploder because i couldn't stand to browse in it, but i needed to make PDFs or documents that i could put into a bibliography, which requires an access date as well as the URL that was accurate at the time. i sent them countless emails begging them to fix it, as i'm sure millions of other researchers did as well.

that's the sum of my very brief experience so far, fwiw.

denise


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From: Richard Forno <rforno () infowarrior org>
Date: June 13, 2005 10:45:20 PM EDT
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: RFI: MacOSX Tiger 10.4 Opinions/Feedback



(also sent to my infowarrior-l list)

After running OSX 10.4 for a month now, I've got to say that I'm less than enthused. Among other "improvements" touted by Apple, I find Spotlight to be bloated and a CPU hog and it was the first thing I found a "hack" to
disable it and reclaim my CPU.  Widgets? Nice, but more eye candy than
utility for me. Spotlight? The old Sherlock Find was more than adequate -- not to mention, Apple's default implementation of Spotlight makes it too
overwhelming for casual users to figure out right from the start.

While there are a few things about 10.4 that I like such as Safari 2.0 and Mail 2.0 (among other little GUI tweaks here and there), I'm not sure it's really anything that "special" in terms of how Apple's marketing mavens are raving about it.....and after the month or so that 10.4 has been out, I'm more than a bit surprised about the number of mixed reviews it continues to
receive from both power-users and regular users on the Mac boards I
frequent.

To me, 10.3 felt like a pretty finished OS. 10.4 feels "okay" but there are
notable times when I'm holding my breath expecting an app to crash or
something along those lines -- and I have had to force-quit more OSX-native apps under 10.4 than I ever did under 10.3. Coupled with new "features" that
are shoved down our throats in 10.4 that are either half-baked or
poorly-implemented...well, frankly, there's a growing part of me that is
thinking seriously about going back to 10.3 on my 1GHZ TiPB.

I'm curious what other thoughts are, those of you that are using 10.4.

Rick
-infowarrior.org





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