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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 17:01:12 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Date: June 12, 2005 2:08:46 PM EDT To: dave () farber netSubject: Re: [IP] more on Can't we just get some answers or facts about this? INTEL -- responding to continuedmis information on IP
Dave, again please remove my identifying information. Thanks.
Based on this page it appears that the inflammatory claim you quoted about embedding keys lacks any grounds, evidence or support. Donald Whiteside's statement that "Intel did not embed DRM technologies into the Pentium D and Intel 945 Express Chipset family" seems very clear and unambiguous. As VP, Corporate Technology Group, he would know, and he'd look pretty bad if it comes out with an embedded key of the kind your anonymous source suggested.
Put up or shut up? Sounds fair. Read http://www.dtcp.com/data/wp_spec.pdf , paying particular attention to discussion of device certs and revocation. A "device cert" is a certificate, signed by a central authority, stating that some bitstring represents a key securely in the hardware of that device. Or look at the statements from http://java.sys-con.com/read/46424.htm , that each device has its own unique cert and key. Or look at Digital 5, a member of some of the DTCP groups, referring to it as DRM at http://www.digital5.com/news/press_122904.asp Or look at the discussion of doing this outside the IEEE standards process at http://java.sys-con.com/read/46424.htm . That site's particularly interesting in its discussion of the controls they intend to impose on even *unencumbered* data that enters your home. It also discusses the fact taht each device has its own certificate and key. Who's saying all this juicy stuff? A staff engineer with Intel, Steve Bard. And Intel's own statement on this said the 945 Express Chipset does support DTCP-IP; they just called it Content Protection instead of DRM. So I think it's pretty clear that DTCP is DRM, and that it is in at least some Intel Chipsets (e.g. the 915 and 830). Given the HD-video capability in the 945G Express, it seems quite unlikely that there's no DTCP support in there. ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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