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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 21:11:34 -0500
Same thing happens to me at National and ONLY at National. No explanation and to top it all off, the floors are filthy there. Dave ------ Forwarded Message From: Serge Egelman <egelman () cs cmu edu> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:56:51 -0500 To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Re: [IP] more on DO READ THIS DJF -- Aggressive Searches Pat-down Searches/Sexual Harassment at the Airport For IP if you wish: I just flew to Costa Rica for break (here now). At National going through security they didn't say it was required that I take my shoes off, so I wasn't going to (I don't usually have to do that, and I know that this particular pair of shoes has no metal in them). As I was about to walk through the metal detector, the TSA goon said, "are you going to take your shoes off?" "not if it isn't required" "well if you don't you will fit the profile for secondary screening." Off they came. serge On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 03:21:32PM -0500, David Farber wrote:
------ Forwarded Message From: Rob McMillin <rlm () pricegrabber com> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 07:33:01 -0800 To: <dave () farber net> Cc: Barry Steinhardt <bsteinhardt () aclu org>, Esther Dyson <edyson () edventure com> Subject: Re: [IP] more on DO READ THIS DJF -- Aggressive Searches Pat-down Searches/Sexual Harassment at the Airport David Farber wrote:------ Forwarded Message *From: *Barry Steinhardt <bsteinhardt () aclu org> *Date: *Sat, 25 Dec 2004 12:09:01 -0500 *To: *Esther Dyson <edyson () edventure com> *Cc: *<dave () farber net> *Subject: *Re: [IP] DO READ THIS DJF -- Aggressive Searches Pat-down Searches/Sexual Harassment at the Airport Esther, Happy New Year! We met with the TSA last week and astoundingly they have no statistics on how many searches have been conducted at each airport or what the ratio is between men and women. They did tell us that the TSA screeners had been told to pick out passengers with an "unnatural physical form" -- a judgement that seems to be entirely idiosyncratic, albeit skewed to women as the screeners seem particularly focused on breasts. We have logged a hundred + complaints from flyers around the country. The TSA admitted last week that they have received 400. All of ours, so far, have been from women, who range in age from 23 to 93. Many of them are business travellers, who report repeated instances of "groping" --the most frequent word we hear. My 16 year daughter having read all the news accounts is now refusing to fly anywhere for vacation. Apparently she is not the only woman to have made that judgement and the airlines are not happy either. Please do let me know if you have any troubling experiences.Nothing nearly this bad, but returning home from Arkansas yesterday, I had a TSA officer complain -- with great hostility -- at the way I took my boarding pass back from me! Good lord, they ask us to take our shoes off, take off our coats, and now they think they're tin gods? No wonder... Still waiting for an explanation how any of this is improving actual security... ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as serge () guanotronic com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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