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more on gas prices
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 11:09:43 -0400
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 10:03:25 -0500 From: Kenneth_Mayer () Dell com Subject: RE: [IP] more on gas prices To: dave () farber net Thread-Topic: [IP] more on gas prices Thread-Index: AcWcJOK+HTVIdMYvTOamlINVzR/mhAABPqNQ X-Spam-Filtered-At: eList eXpress <http://www.elistx.com/>X-IronPort-AV: i="3.95,174,1120453200"; d="scan'208"; a="276682020:sNHT28662556"X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2005 15:04:07.0701 (UTC) FILETIME=[6CC00450:01C59C2A] Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 11:04:16 EDT Resent-From: dfarber+ () ux13 sp cs cmu edu Resent-To: dfarber () cmu eduX-Spam-Clean: 7% (NO_REAL_NAME 0, __C230066_P2 0, __C230066_P3_1 0, __C230066_P5 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __IMS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_CRUFT 0, __STOCK_PHRASE_1 0) X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (mx5.andrew.cmu.edu [128.2.10.115]); Mon, 08 Aug 2005 11:04:30 -0400 (EDT) X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by waveman.securesites.net id j78F4Tnb050269X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on waveman.securesites.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: Interesting comments from everyone, being one of the younger ones in here. I have only seen gas prices rise from 97 cents to over 2.25 (as of this mornings drive by). We gotta be concerned. The gentleman from Europe who lives over here is a little of base. Most of the European countries have the mass transit we do not, i.e.,The euro rail. When we live in a big city, LA, NYC, those people have to live out of the city, b/c no one can afford to live their. So gas prices will have an effect on us moreso than the Europeans, but he is right in one regards, we have set ourselves up for this, the car companies and gas companies have dictated this all for years. I just worry about gas prices going so high that I have to go to one car and my wife and brand new baby are stuck at home all day! She will ring my neck. Ken Mayer Jr Advanced System Group Dell Server and Storage Department >Contact Info: >Phone: 800.901.3355 x 7958119 >E-mail: kenneth_mayer () dell com >Fax: 800.607.9327 attn: Kenneth Mayer -----Original Message----- From: owner-ip () v2 listbox com [mailto:owner-ip () v2 listbox com] On Behalf Of Dave Farber Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 9:22 AM To: ip () v2 listbox com Subject: [IP] more on gas prices >X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 >Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 07:15:31 -0700 >From: rick tait <rickt () rickt org> >Subject: gas prices >To: dave () farber net > > >Dave: > >I'm sure I will be corrected to some degree by the fine readers of IP, >but as a European living here in the US for more than a decade, I get >mightily ticked off when I hear Americans carping on about the price of >gas. How can people get pissy about gas "being expensive" when: > >- it has not really tracked regular inflationary costs since the 1950s >- the at-pump price has been, and continues to be artificially reduced >by government intervention > >For all the "free-market values" that are espoused by the pro-gas >(Republican) administrations, I find it to be a true case of the pot >calling the kettle black. The fact is America has over the last 50 >years put itself in a position of being utterly and completely reliant >on artificially lowered gasoline prices, to the extent that if gasoline >actually "cost" what it *should* cost (i.e. if government support was >removed) then an economic catastrophe would occur: > >- airlines (already on shaky ground at best, and receivers of immense >amounts of governmental "subsidies"/loans) would no longer be able to >balance their books, and almost immediately declare bankruptcy >- the US' impressive and massive goods-transport system would no longer >be able to support itself (one example: think of how much a "normal" >gasoline/diesel price would affect Walmart's *vast* transportation >costs >- the US's automotive manufacturing industry would collapse >(manufacturing/transportation costs alone might do it, but think of how >fewer new cars/SUVs/trucks would be sold) > >We got ourselves into this mess. Now how do we get out of it? > >RMT. > > > ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as Kenneth_Mayer () Dell com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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