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more on more on Editor's position on IP coverage on the Day After
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 14:34:49 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Tom Fairlie <tfairlie () frontiernet net> Date: November 6, 2004 11:33:06 AM EST To: dave () farber netSubject: Re: [IP] more on Editor's position on IP coverage on the Day After
Simon, Sometimes, there's nothing like putting out a fire by throwing a little gas on it is there? You bemoan our ineffectual debating tactics (agreed), but then you say we are worse than junior high students (is that an insult to those students as well?). Okay, so here's the intellectual discourse you asked for. The problem here is actually simple. Like religion, or the evangelical debate over computer operating systems, modern American politics can be quite polarizing. If we allow this to go on much longer, we will certainly do more harm than good because our national power will become fractionalized and our citizenry will become even more disenfranchised than they are now. There's an old saying that I have about this sort of situation: never allow yourself to get [too] angry about something you can't fix. So what do we do? Simple. We do the things that work in both the religious and computer wars mentioned above-- namely, find a common ground. As an independent, I have talked to numerous Republicans who feel that Bush has gone over the cliff in terms of reckless spending and dangerously misguided foreign adventures. In fact, the American Conservative magazine-- a magazine I enjoy reading--happened to endorse Kerry this year. So, there's room to maneuver on the right. Talking to the Democrats, I find that many are upset with the party's lack of conviction and a coherent vision for the future. They constantly have to deal with the fact that "liberal" is a dirty word (thanks to Rush) and that most Americans think they are soft on defense and spend-aholics --despite the fact that Democrats brought the U.S. into almost every war in the 20th century and that Republicans have massively outspent Democrats over the last 30 years. The common ground here should be obvious to any interested party. There is a lot of room in the middle to create a vision that is both socially and fiscally sound. We need to work together to create a party, a platform, a vision, or whatever, that focuses on the best values liberalism and conservatism have to offer. In order to not be the typical, lazy hypocrite, I am already at work on such a vision. I have a platform and I plan to shop it around to people across the spectrum in order to get buy-in from all Americans--not just those I happen to like or agree with. I don't plan to create the new Reform or Green Party, but an organization that actively seeks to close the political gap in our country one small step at a time. If anyone is honestly interested in helping (Republican or Democrat or whatever), please feel free to contact me. See, we don't all have to be cynical--it's just fun sometimes. Tom Fairlie www.tomfairlie.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Farber" <dave () farber net> To: "Ip" <ip () v2 listbox com> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 7:13 AM Subject: [IP] more on Editor's position on IP coverage on the Day After Begin forwarded message: From: Simon Higgs <simon () higgs com> Date: November 5, 2004 3:42:43 AM EST To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] Editor's position on IP coverage on the Day After But Dave, This is my first Presidential election since becoming a citizen. All I see is conjecture and opinion based around unreconcilable "facts" by intellectuals with a grudge. I still can't get my head around this all consuming hatred for the "other" party. It just has to go. This type of discourse (which is worse than the average jr high nonsense) just isn't interesting anymore. Simon
I have been filtering the email from both sides to pick ones that add value to seeing how badly this nation is divided over the election. The only way to even attempt to heal the wounds are to understand why they exist. Saying "all is now well" will not work. We have to understand each others positions and concerns. Again, the purpose of IP is to make inform the readers and the editor and to make them think about the issues -- both technical and policy. ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as simon () higgs com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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