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more on Windows systems too insecure for onlinevoting


From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:27:21 -0500


From: Ed Gerck <egerck () nma com>

A reliable system can be made out of unreliable parts -- that's
how the Internet works, that's how RAID storage systems work.
This is a perhaps  surprising but well established principle. Requiring
perfection of one part (the browser) is not only unnecessary, it's
disingenuous.

Furthermore, the conclusions cited apply to the FVAP SERVE system
analyzed by the report's authors. There's no scientific "law" that would
prevent a secure online system to be built using today's browsers for voter
access.

But, perhaps, SERVE is secure after all. One of those experts confidentially
recommended in 2000 a large investment by his employer in a company that
sells a product that he publicly said would never work. At the same time,
the same person also worked as a purportedly neutral expert in a state
committee overseeing tests of companies competing with that company.
The product was for Internet voting.

Another one of those experts that fight even against the mere idea of
electronic and Internet voting, once declared in a CSPAN videotaped testimony
on voting systems that he and another expert made an optical film that
prevents photography but allows human viewing -- which is an optically
obvious false claim.

These are public facts. The lesson here is that the public needs to be careful
about expert opinion -- both pro and con electronic voting. The facts above
can be explained by politics and marketing. Logic and science cannot.
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