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"Permission-based email marketers" confusedabout CAN SPAM law [sp]
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:39:31 -0400
-----Original Message----- From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:44:33 To:Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Cc:declan () well com Subject: Re: [IP and Politech] "Permission-based email marketers" confused about CAN SPAM law [sp] Sigh. "Permission-based email marketers" is merely a fancy term for "spammers". As in, for example:
loren () uptilt com
Uptilt.com? Ah, yes. Spammers. Already noted on at least these lists of spammer domains: http://obob.manilasites.com/ http://geocities.com/filterlists/domainnames.txt http://www.river.com/ops/spam/bad-domains.txt http://www.spamblocked.com/killfile http://www.tls.cena.fr/%7Eboubaker/JunkTrap/domains.blacklist http://www.znet.com/blocked-domains.html A bit of discussion about their spamming operation: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=uptilt.com&btnG=Google+Search&meta=group%3Dnews.admin.net-abuse.email Some example sightings of spam from them: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=uptilt.com+group:news.admin.net-abuse.sightings&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=news.admin.net-abuse.sightings&safe=off&sa=G&scoring=d The most recent spam from them (from the link just above): January 28, 2004: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=uptilt.com+group:news.admin.net-abuse.sightings&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=news.admin.net-abuse.sightings&safe=off&scoring=d&selm=20040129225721.918CD1BDE7B%40kalyani.oryx.com&rnum=1 Some example sightings of spam from one of their other domains (up0.net): http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=up0.net&btnG=Google+Search&meta=group%3Dnews.admin.net-abuse.sightings Admits renting lists of addresses (and then trying to scrub them) in this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/spamcon-marketing () spamcon org/msg00003.html And so on. Oh, they might very well comply with YOU-CAN-SPAM: don't know, don't care. What I care about is that they have a long history of spamming and have thus earned permanent blocking in all mail systems under my control. ---Rsk ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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