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From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 08:58:46 -0400
-----Original Message----- From: "Peter B. Ladkin" <ladkin () rvs uni-bielefeld de> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 12:06:55 To:Dave Crocker <dcrocker () brandenburg com> Cc:Dave Farber <dave () farber net>, ip () v2 listbox com Subject: Re: [IP] Email issues Dave Crocker wrote: First of all, there are more server implementations than folks tend to realize. Second of all, if you are going to make a fundamental change to email, then you should assume that it will change _all_ of the components in the service, not just the servers. Third of all, changing the software is probably a trivial part of the effort. It is deploying and operating the changes that makes the effort daunting. I don't see that changing from SMTP to something more friendly to authentication is going to change IMAP or POP, so I don't see that I "should assume" that it will. Since the proposed scheme of payments involves changes to mail exchange and relaying, I also don't see that people are "daunted" by the prospect of changes to email distribution protocols. Your analysis of the social and psychological factors affecting discussion of spam are interesting, but when all is said and done it is a matter of devising changes which will be effective, and there is reason to think that a payment scheme imposed by Microsoft through their market clout would be somewhat effective. Unfortunately, it would also disadvantage many e-mail users who are not spammers, and it doesn't solve the wider issue of interaction authentication. Your argument that the economic model for e-mail postage schemes is artifical rather than economically natural is pertinent. That such a scheme is artificial means that an implementation would have to be in part political, in that any payment model would have to be imposed and could equally have been different. The Economist's contention that the economists are "taking over" from the politicians and techies is misleading; they would merely be joining in. PBL -- Peter B. Ladkin PhD FBCS CW(hon) Professor of Computer Networks and Distributed Systems, Faculty of Technology, University of Bielefeld, 33594 Bielefeld, Germany Tel (Vx/msg/Fax) +49 (0)521 880 7319 http://www.rvs.uni-bielefeld.de ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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