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more on 4 more plus comment on Gilmore vs DOJ
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:45:09 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: david d zuhn <zoo () stpaulterminal org> Date: August 17, 2004 9:34:04 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] more on 4 more plus comment on Gilmore vs DOJ [For IP, as you like]
I also am not feeling "oppressed" merely because an airline asks for my ID. However, I do tend to feel that there is merit in John Gilmore's complaint.
I agree, but not on the basis of whether this provides security or not. Many of the arguments here focus on whether or not this can provide security, while I understand the case to be about secret laws. The airlines say that the requirement for ID is based on a law, but no one will document the law. If the law is a public law, then it can be subject to the usual checks and balances provided by our system -- we can choose to live with it and show ID, or we can choose to amend or repeal it via further legislation. But as the law today (apparently) requires certain forms of government issued ID, what's to stop The Powers That Be from changing the law, in fashion as arbitrary as the initial creation of this law, to require a new form of ID (say, the biometric passports) rather than what is suitable today. And as things stand now, we have no way to influence those arbitrary decisions, and that's what I understand is being fought. This law sucks rocks, but primarily in its secrecy. david d zuhn, zoo AT stpaulterminal.org, http://stpaulterminal.org ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as interesting-people () lists elistx com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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