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more on New Website: John Gilmore vs. 'Papers, Please'
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 09:51:35 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: mis () seiden com Date: August 16, 2004 8:01:25 PM EDT To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Re: [IP] more on New Website: John Gilmore vs. 'Papers, Please' for IP if you wish: re
From: Hiawatha Bray <watha () monitortan com> Date: August 16, 2004 2:10:27 PM EDT To: dave () farber net, Ip <ip () v2 listbox com> Subject: RE: [IP] New Website: John Gilmore vs. 'Papers, Please' ... stabs at keeping us safe. Among other things, they expect to know the identities of those who fly. My only complaint is that it's still too easy to defeat such security systems.
oh, yeah, they're trying real hard. by now every major domestic airline is allowing people to print their own boarding passes on their own printers, that are checked only for consistency against some identity document -- which allows anyone with any of a few hundred legitimate-looking govt issue photo ids and a bootleg of photoshop and a printer to go to any gate at any time![ actually PIT now checks again ID at the gate at least they did one day djf]
since there's no second identity check at the gate, for domestic flights (at all the airports i've traveled through this year) you can once again travel on someone else's ticket, and that's who will be profiled by CAPPS II (no matter what it's called tomorrow). so much for the no-fly or the "hassle me every time" lists.the 9/11 terrorists all had authentic ids, which are for the next n years
only slightly better than authentic LOOKING ids. which leads me and others to conclude that the ID check and all of the profiling and lists provide only the appearance, but not the actuality of security, at the same time as they provide affordances for control over all of us good guys, while allowing even slightly ambitious bad guys to get through.(the computer scientists should easily spot the multiple bugs: reliance on unvalidated data, not authenticating the boarding pass, and the time-of-check/time-of-use window
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