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SPF ready for media coverage
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:58:07 -0500
Delivered-To: dfarber+ () ux13 sp cs cmu edu Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:19:59 -0400 From: Meng Weng Wong <mengwong () dumbo pobox com> Subject: SPF ready for media coverage To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> m On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 06:28:59AM -0500, Dave Farber wrote: | Funny, I gave a talk a month ago on this. Time to act. | | Survey: Spam Is Starting to Hurt E-Mail, Erode People's Trust | in the Internet World | Everybody agrees that it's time to do something, but nobody knows quite what to do. I'm doing SPF. At ISPcon I announced SPF, and spoke with a number of high-ups at Yahoo, Earthlink, and other ISPs. Miles Libbey, product manager for Yahoo Mail, had already heard of it, and relayed to me some of the objections of his tech staff; I assured him those problems had all been solved in the latest version of the spec. I had dinner with Anne Mitchell of ISIPP, Suresh Ramasubramaniam of Outblaze, Neil Schwartzmann who publishes SpamNews, and Catherine Hampton who wrote SpamBouncer. They all liked SPF. People who had their own pet anti-spam schemes seemed to consider SPF an enabling technology for their work. During Q&A, I was a little surprised and quite pleased when the others people on my panel started talking about SPF as part of their solutions. So ISPcon went well. The mailing list is at almost 200 subscribers and there are signs we've hit critical mass: people are writing independent implementations, web-based syntax validators, that sort of thing. We've even got a celebrity or two: this month ESR joined the list and declared himself a strong supporter. Now the challenge is getting the word out. SPF has gotten some press. It was featured on Slashdot a few weeks ago. LiveJournal (recently the victim of a joe-job) has decided to publish SPF records soon. Even the shadowy AI that is Google PageRank has given us its blessing. (We're the top hit for "SPF".) Lots of small and medium-sized domains are publishing SPF records every day. So it's time to move past "the sky is falling": the public wants to know what people are doing about spam. And ISPs in particular want to know what they can do right now. Legislative and economic solutions are far away: it just isn't practical to sue spammers or implement micropayments. As a sign of how mature SPF is, the biggest disagreement on the mailing list this week has been whether DNS records should use underscores or dashes. When the arguments are all aesthetic you know it's ready to go. If any journalists might be interested in a story about SPF and other anti-spam proposals being created by the ASRG and others, I'll be ready to give interviews starting next week (27 Oct onwards). You can contact me at mengwong () pobox com. Further reading: http://www.irtf.org/asrg/asrg_documents.htm http://www.taugh.com/ links to a survey of technical anti-spam measures http://spf.pobox.com/ cheers meng
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