a bit more on Oakland Teacher Calls Secret Service on Students!!

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Oakland Teacher Calls Secret Service on Students!!
by Fired Up! Sunday May 04, 2003 at 11:52 AM


An Oakland teacher called the Secret Service on two 16 year old Oakland
students because the alluded to offing Bush in a fired up conversation in
their class about how Bush is killing people all over the world!! This is
the type of thing that students say all the time.



Oakland Tribune 


Secret Service grills students Oakland teacher calls U.S. security agents
after teens make in-class comments threatening President Bush
Oakland teacher calls U.S. security agents after teens make in-class
comments threatening President Bush
By Alex Katz 
STAFF WRITER 


Sunday, May 04, 2003 - OAKLAND -- Two students at Oakland High School were
interrogated last month by the U.S. Secret Service after allegedly
threatening the life of President Bush in a classroom discussion, school
officials have confirmed.

English teacher Sandy Whitney said she called the Secret Service after two
boys in her English class, both 16, made comments about getting a sniper to
"take care" of Bush.

Oakland High sophomores John and Billy, who did not want their last names
published, said Friday that their comments were made in jest. They said the
April 23 interviews with federal agents left them scared and upset.

Although John admitted he made an ill-worded comment about Bush, one that he
didn't want to repeat Friday, Billy said his only remark was "Bush is
wacked," slang for crazy or deranged.

After the meeting with Secret Service agents, "I was traumatized," John
said. "I was just sitting in class, just looking at the door to see if they
were going to come get me or whatever."

"I was just trying to be funny," Billy said.

The way Whitney remembers it, John "said something like, 'We need a sniper
to take care of Bush,' and Billy said, 'Yeah, I'd do it.'"

The class in question is at times "challenging," Whitney said.

Whitney said she called the San Francisco office of the Secret Service, now
under the umbrella of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, to ask what
her responsibilities were if one of her students had made a threat.

Under federal law, making a threat against the president's life is a crime
punishable by up to five years in prison.

"I wasn't saying, 'Come and get these buzzards,' nothing like that," she
said. "If you say, 'fire' in a crowded theater, that's not a good thing to
do. If you say, 'Let's kill the president,' you have to be prepared for the
consequences." 

A few hours after Whitney's call, Oakland High received a visit from U.S.
Secret Service Agents Julie Pharo and Eric Enos, said Principal Clement Mok.

Mok said the agents told him to pull the students out of their sixth period
class. The agents grilled each one separately in a conference room with Mok
present. The boys' parents were not called.

"I can't, in my position, determine what is or is not a national security
threat," Mok said. "It is unusual (for the Secret Service to come to a
school), but we don't get in the way of federal agents trying to do their
jobs." 

California law allows peace officers to question students on school grounds
without notifying parents.

"People have a right to free speech, we're not trying to infringe on that,"
said Richard Stribling, a Secret Service official in San Francisco. "But
there is a line there."

Stribling said he did not know about the Oakland High case. He said his
office gets a lot of reports of threats against the president, and agents
determine which ones to follow up on. But it is rare for agents to go to
schools, he said. 

The boys said the agents asked questions such as, "Are you a terrorist?",
"What is your opinion of the president?" and "What would you say to the
president if he was here?" Both said they would apologize.

John said the questions were intimidating, and claimed the agents told him
he had no rights after what he had said about Bush.

The agents asked whether his family had guns at home, and whether he
considered himself a good shot, John said. He answered yes to the first
question and no to the second.

Billy said the agents also wanted to know if he had a picture of Bush with a
target on it, and if he had ever been to Washington, D.C.

"I was crying at the moment," Billy recalled. He has not returned to
Whitney's class since the incident.

Some of Whitney's colleagues said they would have used the boys' comments as
an opportunity to discuss the consequences of threats.

"To think the Secret Service would come in, it's just outrageous to me,"
Oakland High English teacher Larry Felson said.

Dorothy Ehrlich, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union's
Northern California office, questioned Mok's decision not to call the boys'
parents. 

Legislators in Sacramento are considering a bill backed by the ACLU that
would make it mandatory for high school principals to tell students they can
have a parent present during on-campus police interviews.

"If they thought it was serious enough of an incident to call in the Secret
Service, it should have been serious enough to get the parents involved,"
Ehrlich said. 

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