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IP: ICANN == Geist reply to Simms replay to Geist article
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 09:20:11 -0400
------ Forwarded Message From: Michael Geist <mgeist () uottawa ca> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 09:01:13 -0400 To: farber () cis upenn edu Subject: Re: IP: ICANN attorney replies to Politech post on "self-regulation's end" Dave, I sent the following to Declan yesterday -- might be of interest... Since it's not everyday I get described as "all wrong", "profound lack of understanding", "laughably naive", and "longing for a utopian construct" in a single posting -- it usually takes at least a couple of days to earn those accolades -- I hope you'll permit a brief response to Joe Sims that hits on three points. First, Joe at least validates my point in the column that ICANN mistakenly seeks to characterize its critics as insisting that the issue is all about global online elections. My column specifically argues that this is not what this debate is about and even goes so far as to suggest that elections do not necessarily ensure adequate representation, balance, and accountability. Far from a "religious approach" with not alternative solution, I think that elections are the most obvious method of working toward fair representation, accountability, and transparency, but not necessarily the sole method of achieving those goals. Second, Joe argues that groups such as the "ccTLDs must be persuaded to come to the ICANN table and that it will not help that process to make ICANN less stable, less predictable organization." I think Joe and (perhaps ICANN by extension) make a serious mistake in thinking that transparency, representation, and accountability somehow undermines ICANN's ability to bring ccTLDs on board. Last year I was elected to the board of the Canadian Internet Registration Authority, which manages the dot-ca, in a public online election. CIRA just completed its second online election yesterday and the results will be announced next week. I believe that this illustrates that online elections are hardly the bleeding edge of innovation that Joe claims. The unpredictability that elections create has nothing to do with new technologies -- rather, it is the unpredictability of who will actually be elected, which I suspect, is one the major concerns of those who currently run ICANN since vocal directors such as Karl Auerbach and Andy Mueller-Maguh were not exactly their first choices two years ago. Moreover, my position (and I speak only for myself and not other directors nor the organization) in the most recent CIRA election was that CIRA should not enter into any agreement with ICANN unless it can be satisfied that ICANN has addressed the fairness and accountability issues with all of its constituent groups, including Internet users. The reasoning is simple -- if users can be so easily dismissed, what is to stop ICANN from doing the same to the ccTLD community once they have them signed, sealed, and delivered. Transparency, accountability, and fair representation are issues that matter to all stakeholders, particularly those that ICANN admits that it must persuade to come to the table. Finally, while Joe says that I long for a utopian construct, the last time I checked: - Senator Conrad Burns was saying that legislation might be needed because ICANN does not operate in an open fashion and is unaccountable to Internet users; - the GAO was concluding that ICANN has made little progress in ensuring representation of the Internet community and using private, bottom-up coordination; - ICANN was embroiled in a lawsuit for failing to provide a director with access to its records as required by state law; - the EU was recommending total governmental consultation on all policy issues (some partnership that); and - the United Nations was wondering aloud about involving international governmental organizations in the domain name governance process. Despite that environment, Joe says that ICANN is on the path to success. Now which one of us is really laughably naive and longing for utopian construct? MG -- ********************************************************************** Professor Michael A. Geist University of Ottawa Law School, Common Law Section 57 Louis Pasteur St., P.O. Box 450, Stn. A, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6N5 Tel: 613-562-5800, x3319 Fax: 613-562-5124 e-mail: mgeist () uottawa ca URL: http://www.lawbytes.ca Looking for Internet and technology law resources? Check out: - the Canadian Internet Law Resource Page (CILRP) at: http://www.cilrp.org/ - my bi-weekly Globe & Mail Cyberlaw column at http://www.globetechnology.com - the 2nd edition of my Internet law textbook at http://www.captus.com/Information/inetlaw-flyer.htm - Butterworths monthly newsletter Internet and E-commerce Law in Canada at <http://www.butterworths.CA/book.asp?bookid=403> - UDRPInfo.com for information on the ICANN UDRP at http://www.udrpinfo.com. My daily Internet law news service is now BNA's Internet Law News. Visit http://www.bna.com/ilaw to subscribe to this free service. ------ End of Forwarded Message For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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