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IP: Comcast spy software? [ or does Comcast really know what they are doing djf]


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:00:33 -0500

Either Comcast is devious and/or they have no idea of what they are doing. It sounds to me that that company needs a firm foot in the rear end either by having some advisors who know what is up or Government (city/state/or fed)

Dave


From: "K.Ellis" <guavaberry () earthlink net>
To: David Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>


Dave,

Art Wolinsky is a ringleader on the Educational CyberPlayGround and sent this to me, for IP if useful.

best,
Karen

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Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 19:10:04 -0500
Subject: [DUC] Comcast spy software?


Hi Folks,


I used to have Adelphia cable, which became Comcast@HOME, which became
Comcast.net.  On 2/8 I received my transition package with the simple
3-Step Guide to download and install the Comcast High Speed Internet
software as soon as possible to set up my email address and ensure that I
receive the reserved User Name.


I did just that.  The installation placed a Comcast Support Icon on my
desktop.  I thought nothing more of it.  Shortly thereafter a critical
piece of software began to malfunction.  Over a period of a week or so, the
performance degraded to the point where I had to seek a solution.  I began
doing everything I knew to track down the conflict.  I got the latest
Windows service pack, ran all the appropriate Norton Utilities, and
uninstalled everything that wasn't mission critical on the machine.


I was at the point where I was about to reformat the hard drive and start
over, and that was something I dreaded, not because I didn't know how to do
it, but because it would take forever to reinstall the dozens of programs I
use.  I had just burned the first of a series of CD's I would need to back
up important data when I noticed some activity on the Task Bar in the
tray.  It looked like a moving DNA spiral.  When I passed the mouse over
it, it read "Support.com Protecting".


I had never seen this before and I never knowingly installed any such
software.  Suddenly I remembered the Comcast Support icon. Could
this  activity be related.  I went to Support.com and found "Support.com
(Nasdaq:SPRT) is the world's leading provider of support automation
software. Support.com's patented software platform allows businesses to
automate and personalize the support..."


Yes it was. I immediately uninstalled it and my performance problems went
away, but what was this software doing running on my machine?  I had
subscribed to an Internet Service Provider, I didn't hire a body guard.  So
I called Comcast tech support and asked about the activity on the tray.
They didn't seem to know.  So I decided to do a little investigating...


When I uninstalled the Comcast Support software I noticed another package
named Broadjump Client Foundation.  The Add/Remove window indicated it was
used Frequently with the last use being today.  A quick Internet search led
me to this information at the BoradJump site.


"BroadJump has brought to market a proven engine for generating revenue
from the point of installation forward in ways never before possible.
Instead of simply offering a "fat pipe," service providers are now capable
of profitably delivering the specific goods and services their subscribers
most want and need."


"Builds a database of subscriber demographics and buying behaviors to help
evolve and refine marketing efforts..."


Are you beginning to see what I am getting paranoid?


At this point I got back in contact with Comcast.  They didn't know about
what the software did.  At that point I said, "How can you have every
customer load software on their machine and not know what it does?  I don't
know if that bothers you as someone who has to support the software, but I
know I'm not hanging up until I find out what it does.  That got me
transferred to the top level of tech support who didn't seem  to know much
more about it except that I was able to get the following information
confirmed.


1) Neither piece of software is needed by Comcast subscribers.
2) The support software has caused significant performance problems and
they are not recommending installing it until the next release.
3) They said that they didn't know anything about BroadJump Client
Foundation, but thought that it was left over from the @HOME days.


To this I say, if neither piece of software is needed, why did the
transition letter make it look like it was critical?  If BroadJump was left
over from the @HOME days, why does the installation time stamp coincide
with the Comcast Support installation?  If they have every customer load
software on their machine, why don't they know what the software does?


At this point I uninstalled BroadJump Client Foundation and got the
following message: "Warning: Uninstalling this application could impair
that functionality of other applications installed on this computer.  Are
you sure you want to continue?"


You bet I did!


Couple all this with last week's report that Comcast is tracking the web
usage of all of their customers, you can see why I am paranoid.


If you have Comcast, I would strongly suggest that you uninstall their
support software and the BoradJump Client software and if you have any
further insights, I'd appreciate hearing them. For those of you who have
friends or acquaintances who might want to look into this situation
further, please feel free to pass this message along to them.


Art
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