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IP: Two notes on The tragedy in NYC
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:23:09 -0400
Sender: perry () snark piermont com To: cryptography () wasabisystems com, farber () cis upenn edu Subject: The tragedy in NYC From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry () piermont com> Date: 11 Sep 2001 17:13:04 -0400 Lines: 42 In the wake of the tragedy in NYC today, I was asked by someone if I didn't now agree that crypto was a munition. At the time, I thought that a friend of mine was likely dead. (I've since learned he escaped in time.) My answer then, when I thought I'd lost a friend, was the same as my answer now and the answer I've always had. Cryptography must remain freely available to all. In coming months, politicians will flail about looking for freedoms to eliminate to "curb the terrorist threat". They will see an opportunity to grandstand and enhance their careers, an opportunity to show they are "tough on terrorists". We must remember throughout that you cannot preserve freedom by eliminating it. The problem is not a lack of laws banning things. I know the pressure on everyone in Washington will be to "do something". Speaking as a New Yorker who dearly loves this city, who has felt deep shock throughout most of the day, watching the smoke still rising from the fires to the south of me, listening to the ambulances and police cars continuing to wail about me, let me say this: I do not want more laws passed in the name of defending my home. I do not want more freedoms eliminated to "preserve freedom". I do not want to trade my freedom for safety. Franklin has said far more eloquently than me why that is worthless. If you must do something, send out more investigators to find those responsible for this and bring them to justice. Pass no new laws. Take away no freedoms. Do not destroy the reason I live here to give me "safety". I'd rather die in a terrorist attack. -- Perry E. Metzger perry () piermont com -- "Ask not what your country can force other people to do for you..."
From: "Alexander Polsky" <am_polsky () hotmail com> To: <farber () cis upenn edu> Subject: Not a war . . . Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:18:07 -0400 Assuming that what we presently suspect is true --and this is a major assumption-- then our question will be: how shall we respond? Justice is one aim of any response, but prevention of future incidents must also be in mind. Punishment is possible, necessary, and to be expected. But the capture and the jailing of the earlier World Trade Center bombers did not prevent this event, and the capture of those responsible for today's tragedy is unlikely to dissuade future acts, particularly when this one has been so spectacularly "succesful". A more fundamental question is this: how much intercourse shall we have with those who seek our destruction? Today's actions required organization, planning and support. While the liberties of US citizens must not be trampled in the wake of such tragedy --this is expedient and dangerous jingoism-- we can observe that, in the case of the prior World Trade Center bombing, the perpetrators were not, in fact, citizens. . .being Sudanese, Egyptian and other foreign nationals. To preserve American liberties, it is legitimate to ask those passing through our borders for more weighty and verifiable reasons for being here than the desire to work as a cabby or go to school. This is not an infringement of American liberties, but a just circumscription of the privileges we accord citizens of alien societies who wish to share the benefits of ours. For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/
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