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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:09:53 -0400



Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:32:09 -0500
From: gep2 () terabites com
Subject: Re: IP: F.A.A. Announces Stricter Rules; Knives No Longer Allowed
        --  get out your dull
        chopsticks
To: farber () cis upenn edu
X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17

One of the more curious reports I've heard here in Dallas is that American
Airlines (based here in Fort Worth) is seriously considering to ban *all*
carryon articles, presumably including attache cases, camera bags, and 
notebook
computers.  (I know from personal experience that it is **not** safe to check
notebook computers and video camcorders on airplanes, even with serious 
efforts
to pack them well to protect them).  Eliminating the possibility of use (even
just carrying) of personal computers aboard aircraft would doubtless have a
serious advese effect on the notebook computer industry (of course, this 
in no
way downplays the "serious adverse effect" that things like terrorism have 
on a
whole range of other industries!)

I certainly agree with you... I don't see how eliminating curbside baggage
checkin, or not allowing passengers to await friends at the gates (or 
likewise
to see them off there) would have prevented what happened this week.  It 
sounds
to me more like they want to be SEEN as "doing something", regardless of 
whether
what they're doing is actually effective or not.  Honestly, I hate to see 
people
accept sheep-like any supposedly "security" measures which simply don't 
make any
sense.

The one measure I've read about which I think **would** make a difference 
is the
use of passenger full-body imaging systems, which allow security staff to
essentially see visually what is in passengers pockets (even body 
cavities) etc.
 This would visually show things like plastic/glass knives and other 
possible
weapons, something that existing metal detectors simply don't (and never 
will)
pick up.  The biggest argument against such imaging systems is reportedly 
that
they "look through clothing" (indeed, that's the purpose!) and thus display a
clear image of not only weapons, guns, knives, and such but also genitalia 
and
other things that people are sensitive about and feel is an "invasion of
privacy".

On a list of rights and freedoms that I'd be upset about losing, and related
concerns, I personally think that having hangups about being imaged
(intimately!) would be one of the easier ones to conquer.

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