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IP: Re^2 The Key Vanishes: Scientist Outlines Unbreakable Code
From: Dave Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:03:19 -0500
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:50:24 -0500 From: "Dorothy E. Denning" <denning () cs georgetown edu> Organization: Georgetown University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-C-UDP; georgetownU-campus-4.7-03.08.2000 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: farber () cis upenn edu Subject: Re: IP: The Key Vanishes: Scientist Outlines Unbreakable Code Dave, I made a bit/byte error in what I just sent. The storage requirements are even worse. The following is a corrected (I hope) version. Dorothy -------- Dave, My understanding, based on the description Gina forwarded me from Rabin, is that to send a message that is m bits long requires that the sender and receiver share (in advance) a secret key S that contains m*k random indexes, where k is say 210. These indexes are used to pull bits out of the random stream that is transmitted from the satellite (or whatever). Whereas the satellite bits do in fact disappear, the key S stays around for future use. Even though the satellite bits are the ones that are XORed into the message (the actual process is more complicated than with a standard stream cipher), the real key is S. Now, suppose you want to send a 10 Mb file (1.25 MB). Suppose each index is a 4-byte integer. Then for k = 210, you need a key that is 10**7 * 210 * 4 = 8 GB. For a 100 Mb file, the key is 80 GB. If Alice wants to be able to communicate with 100 people, the storage requirements go up by another factor of 100. There is also the issue of how Alice and Bob exchange the secret S in the first place (wouldn't it be easier to exchange the 10 MB message than the 80 GB key?). The system does not obviate the need for standard crypto -- it only adds additional complexity (and more opportunities to introduce security weaknesses into the implementation). This is why I told Gina I thought the scheme was impractical, but still very interesting theoretically. Of course, it is possible I misinterpreted something and things are not so bad. Regards, Dorothy Dave Farber wrote:The Key Vanishes: Scientist Outlines Unbreakable Code By GINA KOLATA computer science professor at Harvard says he has found a way to send coded messages that cannot be deciphered, even by an all-powerful adversary with unlimited computing power. And, he says, he can prove it. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/20/science/20CODE.html For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/-- Prof. Dorothy E. Denning Georgetown University http://www.cs.georgetown.edu/~denning
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