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IP: Re: The rise of Thought Crimes


From: Dave Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 16:07:51 -0500



To: Russell Nelson <nelson () crynwr com>
Cc: farber () cis upenn edu, gnu () toad com, mo () gonzo ccr org
Subject: Re: IP: The rise of Thought Crimes
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 15:43:41 -0500
From: "Mike O'Dell" <mo () gonzo ccr org>


yes, but your example involves doing something to
someone else to trigger the event, and only then do
they take your state of mind into consideration.
Otherwise, Stephen King would have been convicted
any number of times for all kinds of heinous things.

the thought crimes i'm worried about occur when
the act of having the though itself which is the crime.
that's much more troubling, because it quickly degenerates
into having to prove you *didn't* think of something.
if copy protection involves cryptography, cryptanalysis
itself could become prohibited because you would have
to prove the work could not be applied to a copy
protection scheme and the identification of weaknesses
therein.

so i really differ with you - yes, state of mind is already
a component of other crimes, but short of dangerous psychosis,
having particular thoughts, per se, are not yet crimes, but we are
on the verge of that being the case.

        -mo



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