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IP: re: Cisco offering cable+content cartel discriminatory routers!
From: Dave Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:03:11 -0400
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:38:13 -0400 From: James Love <love () cptech org>
Joe agrees that the Cisco QoS features could be used to discriminate against a competitor. And, it is worth noting that Cisco has marketed the QoS technology to cable operators by telling them that they can use the technology to slow down traffic from competitors, and make their own affiliated content more attractive. Certainly these proposals have been discussed for years, but they are particularly relevant now that the one finally sees deployment of higher bandwidth residential services. I don't think this is about black helicopters. It is about what cable operators will soon be able to do to content delivered over cable Internet connections. If the "New World Networks" really replace "the Internet" (Cisco's words), it raises some obvious public policy issues. What if the companies that control the "New World Networks" discriminate among content providers? And, it is not as if this has never happened on cable video services. No one is saying that technologies for managing congestion or quality of service are not important and potentially useful. But it will change the character of the Internet, and there should be some discussion of the consequences. My testimony is on the web here: http://www.cptech.org/ecom/aol-tw/enbanc.html One of the more intersting Cisco documents is here: Cisco 1999 White Paper: "Controlling Your Network - A Must for Cable Operators" http://www.cptech.org/ecom/openaccess/cisco1.html Jmaie Dave Farber wrote:From: Joe McGuckin <joe () via net> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:39:00 -0700 (PDT) To: farber () cis upenn edu Subject: Re: IP: Cisco offering cable+content cartel discriminatoryrouters! [snip]The QOS features mentioned in Jim Warren's previous messagewould provide network operators with fine grained controls that can be applied to each type of traffic or even individual end-users. It's a very long-winded way of saying: QOS features are not a plot by guys in black helicopters - they are designed to allow PacBell, @Home, Time-Warner, etc to offer internet services with predictable levels of quality even during times of severe networkoverload.Could they be used by a network operator to discriminate against a competitor? Sure, but, so can the current filtering and bandwidth limiting features that are present in Cisco equipment. There's nothing new about this. Joe -- Joe McGuckin ViaNet Communications 994 San Antonio Road Palo Alto, CA 94303 Phone: 650-969-2203 Cell: 650-207-0372 Fax: 650-969-2124-- ======================================================= James Love, Director | http://www.cptech.org Consumer Project on Technology | mailto:love () cptech org P.O. Box 19367 | voice: 1.202.387.8030 Washington, DC 20036 | fax: 1.202.234.5176 =======================================================
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