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IP: re: Cisco offering cable+content cartel discriminatory routers!


From: Dave Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:03:11 -0400



Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:38:13 -0400
From: James Love <love () cptech org>


Joe agrees that the Cisco QoS features could be used to discriminate
against a competitor.  And, it is worth noting that Cisco has marketed
the QoS technology to cable operators by telling them that they can use
the technology to slow down traffic from competitors, and make their own
affiliated content more attractive.

Certainly these proposals have been discussed for years, but they are
particularly relevant now that the one finally sees deployment of higher
bandwidth residential services.

I don't think this is about black helicopters.  It is about what cable
operators will soon be able to do to content delivered over cable
Internet connections.

If the "New World Networks" really replace "the Internet" (Cisco's
words), it raises some obvious public policy issues.  What if the
companies that control the "New World Networks" discriminate among
content providers?  And, it is not as if this has never happened on
cable video services.  No one is saying that technologies for managing
congestion or quality of service are not important and potentially
useful.  But it will change the character of the Internet, and there
should be some discussion of the consequences.

My testimony is on the web here:

http://www.cptech.org/ecom/aol-tw/enbanc.html

One of the more intersting Cisco documents is here:

Cisco 1999 White Paper: "Controlling Your Network - A Must for Cable
Operators"
http://www.cptech.org/ecom/openaccess/cisco1.html

  Jmaie

Dave Farber wrote:

From: Joe McGuckin <joe () via net>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:39:00 -0700 (PDT)
To: farber () cis upenn edu
Subject: Re: IP: Cisco offering cable+content cartel discriminatory 
routers!
   [snip]

The QOS features mentioned in Jim Warren's previous message
would provide network
operators with fine grained controls that can be applied to each type of
traffic or even individual
end-users.


It's a very long-winded way of saying: QOS features are not a plot by guys
in black helicopters -
they are designed to allow PacBell, @Home, Time-Warner, etc to offer
internet services with
predictable levels of quality even during times of severe network 
overload.

Could they be used by a network operator to discriminate against a
competitor? Sure, but, so can the
current filtering and bandwidth limiting features that are present in
Cisco equipment. There's nothing
new about this.

Joe



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