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IP: Re: latest RANT -- on security from Jock Gill! -- an input
From: David Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 12:03:33 -0400
X-Sender: penfield () pop tiac net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 11:27:24 -0400 To: farber () central cis upenn edu (David Farber) From: Jock Gill <jgill () penfield-gill com Subject: IP: Re: latest RANT -- on security from Jock Gill! Dave, Rich Lee, of Novell, and one of the principal authors of the BFG 15 point security paper, gave me permission to forward this to you. You may post it to IP if you wish. Regards, Jock Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 02:06:18 -0600 From: Rich Lee <RILEE () novell com To: jgill () penfield-gill com Cc: LO1BE.PHICKE01 () gmeds com, COR.C.H.BEUKEL-VAN-DEN () IS SIMIS COM, mlmanheim () nwu edu Subject: IP: Re: latest RANT -- on security from Jock Gill! Jock, History has a way of repeating itself. 2% is just about what Novell came up with several years ago, about 1993, when they did their original surveys on Class C2. However, every major customer had Class C2 on their qualify list. However, instead of asking the "security" question, when the customers were asked, "What three things must the product have or you will not buy it?" The customers consistently placed security in the top three. Marketing people need to learn the right lingo for the group they are talking to; security has at least three distinct publics, perhaps five. When asking customers about their security needs, I no longer ask a customer what level of security they want. Instead asking what type of reliability they need and accountability they expect...., how much down time they can suffer. In the end, though, security is going to be part of the product covered by the sticker price, or the customer will not out-right pay for it. Not until a few customers have been taken-out, or nearly taken-out. That seems to be history. Woe to the vendor whose product that customer was using On the other hand we have this e-com thing to handle on the Internet. Quo Vadis. --Rich Lee-- Jock Gill <jgill () penfield-gill com 05/25/97 09:23PM ________________________________________________________________________ Jock Gill Penfield Gill, Inc. Boston, MA jgill () penfield-gill com <http://www.penfield-gill.com ________________________________________________________________________
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