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IP: Re: internet use leveling off from Edupage (Two relies)
From: David Farber <farber () cis upenn edu>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 16:47:58 -0400
From: hoffman () colette ogsm Vanderbilt Edu To: farber () cis upenn edu Dave: This is utter nonsense! We partnered with GVU on the 7th survey and both Tom Novak and I were dismayed to see this ridiculous interpretation of some of GVU's response percentages (not helped by GVU's own misinterpretation of some of the latest Net surveys). First, there are more than 30 million people on the Internet worldwide, (indeed, there are more than 30 million people on the Internet in the UNITED STATES), second, GVU'ssurvey is not representative and so cannot estimate the number of users (or anything else) in the population, and finally, GVU's survey DOES NOT SHOW that new user growth rates are stabilizing at 5% or any other percentage. The GVU survey gives us a great description of the more skilled, more experienced user. It is not representative of ALL Net users, in experience levels or demographics, but does give us an exciting window into whata very important group of Net users are doing and thinking. We'll be posting the results of our analysis on the Project 2000 Web site by the end of the summer and I'll be happy to send you the URL when it's ready. Best, DLH ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~ Professor Donna L. Hoffman hoffman () colette ogsm vanderbilt edu Owen Graduate School of Management 615-343-6904 voice Vanderbilt University 615-343-7177 fax Nashville, TN 37203 129.59.210.109 CU-SeeMe Project 2000: http://www2000.ogsm.vanderbilt.edu/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The number of new Internet users appears to be stabilizing, with growth rates hovering at less than 5%, according to a demographics study released last week by the Georgia Institute of Technology. According to Tech's survey, the number of users is now around 30 million -- that's a good bit lower than Nielsen's recent estimate of 50 million. "What brought people online were all the different service providers really gearing up," says a Tech researcher. "We don't know whether it will pick up again. There hasn't been that much change of the last three surveys." (Tampa Tribune 16 Jun 97) ******Remember 19 June in San Fran****** Look at http://www.eff.org/fillmore
For this one I must comment that I do not have the time to research each note I try to use reliable sources. Besides the IP readership does it for me :-) X-Sender: grudin () paris ics uci edu Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 21:50:14 +0100 To: David Farber <farber () cis upenn edu> From: Jonathan Grudin <grudin () ics uci edu> Subject: Better quickly retract the Edupage/Tampa T baloney you sent out... I sometimes get your messages relayed to me. Some of them are interesting, but in general I wish you did a little more following up on obvious looney tunes, such as the "Internet use leveling off" Edupage article. Whether they or the Tampa Tribune are responsible I don't know. The actual survey results can be found in detail at: http://www.cc.gatech.edu/gvu/user_surveys/survey-1997-04/ The study did NOT look at growth rates AT ALL. It advertised for people to write in and describe themselves, and what is published are demographic statistics based on about 12,000 entirely voluntary reports. What it showed was that there is greater stability in the percentages of people in different categories in these self-reports; e.g., gender and age composition seem to be settling into a pattern, with less wild swings. What these details, and the scores of others in the report, mean depends on how representative people are who voluntarily answer such long questionaires about themselves. The "30 million internet user" figure came from a survey that can be found at the following URL: http://etrg.findsvp.com/index.html What the survey actually says is that at the time it was conducted, there were 31.3 million adult users in the U.S. This is of course not at all inconsistent with a Nielsen figure of 50 million if the latter included kids and perhaps Canadians. The survey authors summarized "remarkable growth continues" and "55 million Americans are poised to become Internet users." -- Jonathan ******Remember 19 June in San Fran****** Look at http://www.eff.org/fillmore
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