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msen hits / reactions to IBR v1n3
From: David Farber <farber () central cis upenn edu>
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 14:03:14 -0500
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 18:57:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Edward Vielmetti <emv () mail msen com> Reply-To: Edward Vielmetti <emv () mail msen com> Subject: msen hits / reactions to IBR v1n3 I just got my Internet Business Report v1n3, here are some reactions. Overall, I'm quite impressed with the work to date - from a content point of view this is still right on target. 1) Jones plus ANS CO+RE. I suspect that Jones Intercable will not learn a lot from ANS CO+RE about the Internet, especially not much in the way of learning how to develop a "value-added corporate presence". There is considerable deep-seated suspicion of and hostility to ANS in many corners of the network, and I have to believe that they will have a hard time picking up the necessary popular momentum to be able to offer a consumer service. (ANS is a lot more used to pitching its T3 net at top corporate clients than it is at selling to the small and medium businesses that are the likely consumers of a $150-$400/mo data cable link.) As a sign of the deep rooted hostility there is said to be a T-shirt seen worn in the Silicon Valley that says Gotti Speck Manson ANS CO+RE (So far unconfirmed - heard from an ex-DEC employee, relayed from a current DEC Palo Alto person). 2) AOL on Internet. One thing to note about AOL is that it's a service which doesn't own its own dial in infrastructure; they are based on services bought from the big old X.25 vendors dial-in modem pools. As a result they have had a hard time getting their whole network up past 2400 baud (9600 is top speed). *If* you believe that the next future access path to the Internet is via ISDN, and that people will increasingly deploy interactive services that are tailored for that sort of bandwidth (and certainly the animated Ford commercials you suggest would be kind of painful at 2400 or even 9600), then the question is can AOL (and their suppliers) keep up with the needed bandwidth? We have seen rather large queues of mail occasionally start to build, where mail for aol.com (and delphi.com) will stack up as their incoming mail systems can't take the internet load. It may simply be growing pains, but I'm likely to guess that it in the longer run it's some misunderstanding of just how much traffic can be generated by the Internet. The other question to note as big commercial sites hit the Internet as clients is whether the giant online services might need to be looked at as the last bastion of mainframe computing. In the 80s, you would find corporate networks with a giant central mainframe and a host of dumb terminals scattered about; the 90s see those mainframes being scrapped and replaced with networks of workstations, with the terminals getting ever smarter. Certainly as the demand for intelligent agents and the like to filter through the mountains of advertising mail get larger, you'd expect that the AOL/Delphi/Prodigy/CIS model of mildly intelligent terminal access to be challenged by relatively smart autonomous (and market priced) access. 3) Market Presence vs Advertising. An article just came across the wire (Reuters "Media Giants Scramble to form More Television Networks") quoting a CBS exec as saying that TV is becoming an "electronic Yugoslavia" with new states springing up as fast as the deal-makers can make them. Anyone who has seen any small part of the Internet knows what this looks like already :). In this highly fragmented world, you have a setup where it's not any big advantage to be large, so long as you can manage to cooperate well enough to get the word out to everyone who needs it. I was a little bit disappointed not to see one of my favorite tools for getting market presence, the "Frequently Asked Questions" posting and ritual observance found on Usenet. This is a very simple tool - you anticipate the first 10 questions that someone would ask about a product, service, or marketplace that you are interested in, you provide credible answers and pointers to more information, and then you post it out (appropriately marked) on a monthly schedule to the relevant netnews groups. It does take some commitment to work on it, but once you have that taken care of the posting acts as a magnet for authors, editors, trade journalists looking for background, and generally anyone who is looking for expertise in a field. Unlike advertisements which people are upset about if you post them too often, people *expect* the FAQ to come out monthly. It's also a great source of competetive intelligence, since you have to maintain some amount of fairness and distance from the topic you're covering and not make it an extended hype-sheet. 4) Advertising on the Internet. I spent half a day trying to dig this Schrage article out of a local business school library - you would not *believe* how hard it is to get access to most trade rags unless you subscribe, or know someone who subscribes. CMP would do well to have some kind of server on line so that readers could get tables of contents and reprints of editorials or other opinionated materials (for a fee, if needed). 5) PR on the Internet. Dan Gillmor is right on target with "the Internet is not a fax machine". On the other hand, you know, there should be a place for an Internet equivalent of the commercial "PR Newswire" - essentially faxed announcements, but on line of course, and with a high enough price to post and to subscribe that you weed out some of the crud that would otherwise go out. (This needs a little more thinking through to get it really right, and I suspect you'd need to work up to a level of credibility slowly.) Real business news on the nets is hard to find. 6) Direct e-mail. Here's an example of real business news that's hard to find. I'll be interested in how this person evades some inevitable amount of flames - if the net doesn't find him, he'll probably be OK, but one caustically worded, slightly incorrect message send out to the proper combination of newsgroups could yield a barrage of knee-jerk anti-junkmail responses. (I should suspect that this would in fact be a *good* thing for McBride in the long run since if he can manage to weather that storm lots of people will know his name...) I note that McBride is a Portal customer (his "netmail.com" address, and also his "jsm.com" address, are tipoffs). Portal is a service that went through a time of being a well-known home of net.idiots (JJ () cup portal com the most notorious), full of people who didn't have a lot of a clue about how to use the Internet - I suspect they learned from that hard experience. 7) Commerce on the Internet. An interesting perspective - Seth Godin says "Hey you out there, please experiment so that I can profit from your advertising mistakes". I see he's got an account on AOL, so he's not out there risking his own capital... There's a missing part of his "extremely difficult to collect" argument. For some set of service providers - namely long distance telephone companies - you don't need to use 900 numbers; it should be enough to get people to use 1-0-NNN dialing to use a preferred long distance service and then make your money on LD minutes. I doubt that AT&T, Sprint, or MCI will be the risk-takers here, but remember that there are lots of little inter-exchange carriers out there trying to convince you to dial 1-0-NNN before you place a call - a data service delivered by modem should be able to tap that. Deliver a stream of credible services and you might well get people to switch their "1+" service over to you (after seeing how reliable and useful you are to them), and hey there's something resembling real money. 8) Windows NT. NT is fine. Does Microsoft have a way of connecting an NT machine to the internet via modem only (with something like SLIP or PPP)? Nope. So the standalone NT box can't be a router for a network, and so it's hard to put a small business who has built their net around NT on the net by simply adding software and a modem. I'll wait a bit, thanks. (OS/2 is no better in this regard; Windows can be made to work up to a point with suitable add-ons. Novell is probably closest.) 9) Networked Information Retrieval. There was some interesting feedback on the "cni-modernization" mail list from the people who did O'Reilley's "GNN" network news paper / online magazine. The complaints were something to the effect that the tools to deliver things were just fine, but that the advertising didn't have enough content! Developing a good ad via gopher or WWW is going to be work, and the development tools are to date bug-ugly and primitive. Even though clients are getting better rapidly, the grungy server code behind the whole thing (presentation software a la Powerpoint is the sort of thing you'd consider) is likely to make the process slow. ---- Anyway, I hope this is useful feedback. From the bottom of the last page: <b>Internet Business Report</b> is published 12 times a year by CMP Publications, 600 Community Drive, Manhasset NY 11030. (516) 562-5000. Editor: Christopher Locke (locke () cmp com). Technical editor: Keith Porterfield (kwp () csn org). Publisher: Bob Evans. Copyright 1993 CMP Publications Inc. All rights reserved. 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