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RE: Bogon IPs traffic only seen by netflow, confined within a VLANonly
From: "AJ Cochenour" <ajc () mytcpip net>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:00:43 -0700 (PDT)
Assuming CatOS on the C4506: 1. Issue the following to locate port if host may be directly connected: 'sh cam dynamic | include <Questionable Source MAC -- FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF>' 2. If operating within distributedswitch network issue the following (assuming Cisco/Foundry topology): 'l2trace <Switch MAC -- FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF> <Questionable Source MAC -- FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF>' to reveal L2 path to device(s) in question. If using IOS on C4506 issue the following to locate port if host may ne directly connected: 'sh mac-address-table | include <Questionable Source MAC -- FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF>' In the absence of recent CatOS/IOS firmware to support the commands provided TCL scripting would be a viable alernative. Happy hunting AJC ajc () mytcpip net
Combining the below from Nicolai with setting up the port in promiscuous mode and running a Network Sniffer tool would give you enough data to track it down, I would think. - Jean-Raymond Xavier Pierre Scientific Computing and Computing Services Stanford Linear Accelerator Center -----Original Message----- From: Nicolai van der Smagt [mailto:nicolai.vandersmagt () bbned nl] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 2:12 AM To: stefmit () gmail com Cc: incidents () lists securityfocus com Subject: Re: Bogon IPs traffic only seen by netflow, confined within a VLANonly Stef, Why don't you just span the entire VLAN to a machine capable of running tcpdump, use tcpdump -e to find the hardware address of the station(s) sending the traffic, and look up that address in the CAM table of your switch? Would be quicker than spanning 1 port at a time.. Kr, Nicolai van der Smagt ----- I have a question, that - in case someone has seen this somewhere - may save us a lot of work: our netflow tool has been reporting lots of traffic (100s of MB/day) between some bogon IPs: 0.10.94.27 to a few IPs in the 37.245.0.0/24 network (e..g 37.245.0.64, 37.245.0.18, 37.245.0.14, etc.). The report comes exclusively for one VLAN, from a 4506 switch. The IP protocols being reported are not among the well known ones (TCP, UDP, ICMP, etc.), but rather #140 (for the majority of traffic) and #63 (and some other ones). We have tried to reach (ICMP echo, nmap, etc.) those IPs from various stations from the same VLAN, with no success. Monitoring a few ports (span to a probe), at random, have not revealed any ARP traffic for those IPs, either, thus - at this stage - being unable to determine who is responsible for that traffic. The default gateway for all the systems on that VLAN does not see any of this traffic, either - and neither any other systems form that point on, upstream, al the way to the internal interface of the firewall, which makes us think that somehow that odd traffic is really confined to that specific VLAN (thus - probably - some sort of spoofing, combined with systems aware of each other's MAC, thus no need to hit the gateway ...). The next step is to write a script on the switch itself (TCL - probably) or on an external probe, so that we could span/monitor one port at a time, and go through all the ports on all blades from that 4506 (4 modules * 48 ports), until the probe hooked up t the destination port will report the traffic we are looking for (as netflow data reports this traffic going on continuously - so it must exist at all times), from one of the ports. Another simpler approach (but unfeasible, unfortunately, in our scenario, due to the need for machines to be up 3 shifts/day) would be to shut down one system at a time, and watch netflow when it stops reporting this junk. So ... short of doing one of the above - has anybody seen this before? Do you have an idea of how else we could trace down the perpetrator?
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- RE: Bogon IPs traffic only seen by netflow, confined within a VLANonly Pierre, Jean-Raymond (Apr 10)
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- RE: Bogon IPs traffic only seen by netflow, confined within a VLANonly AJ Cochenour (Apr 11)
- Re: Bogon IPs traffic only seen by netflow, confined within a VLANonly Stef (Apr 11)
- Re: Bogon IPs traffic only seen by netflow, confined within a VLANonly Roland Dobbins (Apr 11)
- RE: Bogon IPs traffic only seen by netflow, confined within a VLANonly Jose Nazario (Apr 11)
- RE: Bogon IPs traffic only seen by netflow, confined within a VLANonly AJ Cochenour (Apr 11)
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- RE: Bogon IPs traffic only seen by netflow, confined within a VLANonly Nyuk Loong Kiw (Apr 11)