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RE: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found.


From: "Rob Shein" <shoten () starpower net>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:45:10 -0500

I can't imagine this concept working.  Imagine how users would react if VNC
were used in the workplace (as it is in some companies I know of), and it
popped up as a possible trojan or sign of compromise, because it's sometimes
used that way by hackers.  End users, who are the majority of people using
antivirus solutions, are prone to overreaction and panic, particularly where
viruses are concerned.  While giving the user more information and letting
them come to their own conclusion is theoretically the best way, actually
implementing that solution is going to cause massive problems from a support
perspective.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Ives [mailto:jives () cchem berkeley edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:05 PM
To: incidents () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Strange servicepack.exe file (not service.exe) found.


One of the things I have noticed with Symantec (and I am sure 
other vendors 
do the same thing) is that files that have both good and bad uses are 
considered good, no matter how rarely they are used that way.

A better system would be a prompt informing the user of the 
file's name, 
location and any relevant information about its legitimate 
uses and asking 
if this was running intentionally.  If so it should take a 
hash of the file 
and its directory path, archive that information to a file, 
digitally sign 
the file and use it as a reference whenever it does future 
scans.  If it is 
not intentionally being run then quarantine it and notify the 
user that, if 
there are any problems they can un-quarantine the file by 
doing x y and z.

This isn't an absolute answer, because it still relies on the 
user to make 
sound decisions, but it would help alleviate problems caused 
by legitimate 
files performing illegitimate actions.


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