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Re: SV: Q328691 ?


From: "jennifer smith" <aladin168 () hotmail com>
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:48:38 -0400

Hi H C,
I posted "follow-up on Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - Q328691 " this morning to mention about some things Microsoft has missed. They definitely missed the Netcat program, and the other *possible* Unix type of bot that requires Cygwin. My posting is at

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Q328691&hl=zh-TW&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=bf0f8e77.0209080706.7f395b0c%40posting.google.com&rnum=1

I haven't dealt with any previous IRC/Flood virus, so I can't say much in that area. You definitely have done your analysis. I certainly like to learn more about what you have learned.

IRC was fun, until the hackers started using it as a tool. It's unfortunate, but I think we just have to deal with the fact. I am sure there will be another IRC type of virus because it's effective, and there are so many people on IRC...

Please let me know what you guys have found out there too besides this one.

Keep in touch.
/Kyle

Kyle Lai, CISSP, CISA, MCSE
aladin168 () hotmail com


From: H C <keydet89 () yahoo com>
To: kruse () railroad dk, 'Bronek Kozicki' <brok () rubikon pl>, incidents () securityfocus com
CC: aladin168 () hotmail com
Subject: Re: SV: Q328691 ?
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 04:44:02 -0700 (PDT)


> I believe the following link might be of interest
> and provide you with
> further information about this malware.

Very interesting and detailed write up.
One small suggestion, though, for completeness only.
When dealing w/ binaries on Win32 systems, one may
very often find resource information still compiled
into the executable...product version information,
etc.  MS does this with most all of their EXE files
(can't say 100% as I haven't tested them all).
However, when I analyzed the russiantopz bot, this is
one of the first things I did, and found that the bot
was mIRC 5.82, and that the program to hide the mIRC
client window from the desktop was "hidewndw.exe".
From the research I did to support my findings, this
seems to be a very popular combination.

The bot I analyzed had been dropped on an IIS 5.0
server, and through testing, I was able to verify that
the final executable (ie, the bot itself) would have
only been running in the IUSR_* context...no Admin
passwords were guessed.  If the compressed package of
files had included any of the priv escalation EXEs
(the Masy worm included the DebPloit EXE in it's
package), things might have been worse.

I think that the linked articles/web sites have
pointed out a lot of very interesting info, and filled
in the gaps left by the MS "analysis".  In particular,
these things aren't so much insideous, as they are
successful due to laziness on the part of the admins.
If these bits of malware really are as rampant as the
alert would have us believe, then perhaps it's not so
much a lack of security in MS products as it is in the
culture of the administrators.


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