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RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility
From: "Chad Mawson" <CMAWSON () woodsaitken com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 16:47:02 -0500
Where does the "Internet" (witha a capital I) start? For example at home I use Roadrunner Cable access. The Internet certainly doesn't start on the other side of the cable router. Does it start on the other side of my local Time-Warner office? Does it start outside of a regional office? As far as Time-Warner is concerned the answer is "NO". I've read their terms of service very closely. They say that any "excessive" use will be dealt with. I pay my money to them, I follow their rules. If I get scanned by an infected system enough times, I look up their info. If it's another Time-Warner customer, I send the information I have to Time-Warner. MMorell () vdat com stated ISPs policing their networks is "going against everything the net stands for" to me this would only apply if - a) the Internet could stand for anything, and - b) assumes ISP's are the Internet. If bandwidth were infinite I would agree 100%. Right now though I'm tired of other users of the service that we both pay for (other Time-Warner customers that is) using my bandwidth. This is all academic to me. Until I have a direct connection to the Internet, anyone up the line from me can dictate what I can or can't do. If I don't like that I can try to take my business somewhere else, but I have yet to find an ISP that doesn't have some rules, and I don't know that I'd want to deal with any that are completly unregulated. If I pay my ISP for service, but someone else is usurping all the available bandwidth and the ISP won't do anyhting about it, they aren't going to be my ISP any longer. Chad Mawson -----Original Message----- From: ahoward () noerrors com [mailto:ahoward () noerrors com] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 4:11 PM To: incidents () securityfocus com Subject: RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 MMorell () vdat com wrote:
Now, the question posed is, Should the ISP's be responsible for policing hosts on their networks. The answer is clearly No. This goes against everything the net stands for.
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Current thread:
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility, (continued)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility Michael B. Morell (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility Dave Salovesh (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility UMusBKidN (Sep 27)
- Re: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility robertm (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility Jason Robertson (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility Mogull,Rich (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility ahoward (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility Greg A. Woods (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility Jay D. Dyson (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility Greg A. Woods (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility Stephen Villano (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility Chad Mawson (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility UMusBKidN (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility Jonathan Levy (Sep 27)
- Re: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility Brian Cervenka (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility Tony Langdon (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility Dean Cunningham (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility ahoward (Sep 27)
- RE: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility Smith, Mark (Sep 28)