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RE: fbi.gov weirdness?


From: "Michael B. Morell" <MMorell () vdat com>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:40:09 -0400

Just for clarification.....

I have been monitoring the posts for this subject and have noticed allot of
talk about misdirecting to akamai.net

As I am sure some of you out there are aware, Akamai is a service provider
that enables the distribution of information.
They use a distributed DNS model based on networks/where you are coming
from.  Allot of companies and organizations out there like (symantec, nai,
yahoo and the gov) use Akamai's services.

The reason I am posting is because I don't want people to start thinking
that things are being redirected "unlawfully" when there is a logical
explanation of what is going on.  I don't work for akamai, so this is not a
advertisement.  I am just aware of what they do and how it is achieved.

If you have any questions regarding how akamai's technology works, I urge
you to visit their site.  www.akamai.com
But again, just for the record, what you are seeing is the behavior that is
expected and should not be cause for alarm.

Michael B. Morell
Network Operations Administrator
Visual Data Corporation

<--The statements made above do not reflect my employers position nor should
be construed as such-->

-----Original Message-----
From: Crosby, Herbert (OAO-HOU) [mailto:hcrosby () houston oao com]
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 12:15 PM
To: 'Ryan Tucker'; cg
Cc: incidents () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: fbi.gov weirdness?


yup, I get the same miss direction on doing a LIVE UPDATE of Symantec's
Norton Anti-Virus program to these sites (liveudpate.symantec.com >>>
a33.g.akamai.net or 65-65-70-233.deploy.akamaitechnologies.net caught by
doing "netstat -a" while running) .... makes you wonder if the definitions
coming via LIVEUPDATE are any good but I do check them against the FTP site
(different support vendor than http updates) so I know for sure ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Tucker [mailto:rtucker () netacc net]
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 18:07
To: cg
Cc: incidents () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: fbi.gov weirdness?



On Thursday, October 11, 2001, at 06:41 , cg wrote:

Hi All,
    I hope I'm posting this to the right list. I'm most likely just 
paranoid
but is there something weird going on with the fbi.gov site?
1. The new warning that they put out was 
/pressrel/pressrel01/skyfall.htm
2. Then it was changed to /pressrel/pressrel01/101101.htm
3. So after seeing the first url change I tried to go back to 
skyfall.htm
and I got a Not Found error with a
[...]

Noticed that too.  skyfall.htm is... an interesting reference.

4. Now as I look further by looking at DNS at COSTE, UXN and 
geektools.com I
find differing ip             addresses. COSTE reports 
216.200.14.114, while
the two others (which look truer to me)                     
64.124.161.77.

Is anyone else seeing this??

fbi.gov is Akamai'd, which means that it'll come up with a different 
IP address pretty much everywhere...

[cydonia:~] rtucker% host www.fbi.gov
www.fbi.gov is a nickname for fbi.edgesuite.net
fbi.edgesuite.net is a nickname for a33.g.akamai.net
a33.g.akamai.net has address 208.153.34.215
a33.g.akamai.net has address 208.153.34.216

[rtucker@puck rtucker]$ host www.fbi.gov
www.fbi.gov is a nickname for fbi.edgesuite.net
fbi.edgesuite.net is a nickname for a33.g.akamai.net
a33.g.akamai.net has address 216.200.14.100
a33.g.akamai.net has address 216.200.14.114

You can see the same effect (and IP's, most likely) on 
www.akamai.com.  :-)

Hope this helps.  -rt

--
Ryan Tucker <rtucker () netacc net>
Network Operations Manager, NetAccess, Inc.
http://www.netacc.net/ • (716)419-8252

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