RE: Should I be concerned about?

[Lance Spitzner <lance () honeynet org>]

On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Mike Gilles wrote:

> For any data to actually be transferred the packets would have to move up
> the OSI model.  (e.g. start a TCP session) So, in short, no I wouldn't be
> overly concerned with this traffic.

*sigh*

I'm afraid you have just fallen victim to one of the most common
problems within the security community, underestimating the
enemy.  Anything is possible.

             http://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=51&a=6



> -----Original Message-----
> From: faial () rio-de-janeiro sns slb com
>
>       Today morning I start receiving a lot of ICMP packets from a host,
> apparently in China (if the source address was not spoffed). The first
> packet was:
>
> [2001-10-31 11:52:25]  ICMP Destination Unreachable (Port Unreachable)
> IPv4: 203.193.63.9 -> XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
> hlen=5 TOS=192 dlen=56 ID=37607 flags=0 offset=0 TTL=235 chksum=27228
> ICMP: type=Destination Unreachable code=Port Unreachable
> checksum=39472 id= seq=
> Payload:  length = 32
> 000 : 00 00 00 00 45 00 00 4E F2 FE 00 00 68 11 8D DF   ....E..N....h...
> 010 : A3 BA 23 3C CB C1 3F 09 00 89 00 89 00 3A 61 80   ..#<..?......:a.
>
>       following thousands of packets like this:
>
> [2001-10-31 12:42:10]  ICMP Time-To-Live Exceeded in Transit
> IPv4: 203.193.63.9 -> XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
> hlen=5 TOS=192 dlen=56 ID=49325 flags=0 offset=0 TTL=235 chksum=15510
> ICMP: type=Time Exceeded code=0
> checksum=48251 id= seq=
> Payload:  length = 32
> 000 : 00 00 00 00 45 00 00 74 4A A4 00 00 01 11 9D 13   ....E..tJ.......
> 010 : A3 BA 23 3C CB C1 3F 0A 01 03 01 03 00 60 36 1E   ..#<..?......`6.
>
> I know that this can be just legitimate ICMP traffic, but I have a bad
> felling about this activity. I am sure that the target machine never tried
> to connect to or to send any kind of packet to the 203.193.63.9 machine, so
> ICMP Time-To-Live would not be expected. They are "unsolicited" packets.
>
> My question is "Can a hacker forge an ICMP packet to bypass the firewall
> and use its payload (payload data is different for each packet received) to
> send data to a trojan (listening for ICMP traffic on the target machine)? "


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