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Re: Annoy Those Sub7 Scanners.
From: Bill Royds <Bill_Royds () PCH GC CA>
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:53:43 -0400
In a seminar by our local law enforcement officers, it was explained that logs are valid evidence if they follow some rules: 1>/ Kept in the normal course of business 2>/ Attested to veracity by at least two qualified people (2 signatures on printouts, 2 signatures on CD). 3>/ Have been shown to be free from opportunity for tampering (burned into CD's for example). They are as valid as paper evidence if they have been kept with "due care". But you must document you logging procedures and ensure that there are backups and non volatile copies in normal course of business. Bryan Andersen <bryan () visi com> on 08/31/2000 03:52:48 AM Please respond to bryan () visi com To: INCIDENTS () SECURITYFOCUS COM cc: (bcc: Bill Royds/HullOttawa/PCH/CA) Subject: Re: Annoy Those Sub7 Scanners. "Robert G. Ferrell" wrote:
The cops disagree with you. Properly handled, logs are more than just hearsay, and also contribute to convergence of evidence -- a basic concept of law.Further, the US Federal Rules of Evidence (Rule 803(6)) stipulate that logs are exempt from the Hearsay Rule so long as the original logs were made "in the course of a regularly conducted business activity."
This has been my understanding. Also the same goes for backups used as evidence. It's partially based on rulings related to Xerox type copies of legal documents. Having a business plan that states how and when certain actions like logging are done helps greatly in firming up their validity as evidence. -- | Bryan Andersen | bryan () visi com | http://softail.visi.com | | Buzzwords are like annoying little flies that deserve to be swatted. | | -Bryan Andersen |
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- Re: Annoy Those Sub7 Scanners. H Carvey (Aug 27)
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- Re: Annoy Those Sub7 Scanners. Pierre Vandevenne (Aug 28)
- Re: Annoy Those Sub7 Scanners. Frank Knobbe (Aug 30)
- Re: Annoy Those Sub7 Scanners. Talisker (Aug 31)
- Re: Annoy Those Sub7 Scanners. Computer Vegetable (Aug 31)
- Re: Annoy Those Sub7 Scanners. Talisker (Aug 31)
- Re: Annoy Those Sub7 Scanners. Robert G. Ferrell (Aug 30)
- Re: Annoy Those Sub7 Scanners. Bryan Andersen (Aug 31)
- Re: Annoy Those Sub7 Scanners. Bill Royds (Aug 31)
- Re: Annoy Those Sub7 Scanners. Forrester, Mike (Aug 31)
- Re: Annoy Those Sub7 Scanners. H Carvey (Aug 27)