Re: Know Your Enemy: GenII Honeynets

["Michael Anuzis" <michael_anuzis () hotmail com>]

These GenII honeynets are old school already! I (and I would bet several 
other people too) have already been running honeynets with almost identicle 
functionality for months.

The only real thing I notice with these GenII honeynets that is of any 
newness is the Sebek2 loadable kernel module, and correct me if I'm wrong 
but this kernel module could have been designed a lot better.

Taken from the report:
"This is done by modifying the honeypot so it cannot see nor sniff any 
packets with a predesignated source MAC address."

If I was a hacker and ran a sniffer on my hacked host to see what was going 
on and I saw *no* packets coming from myself. I would see ssh connections 
etc inbound but nothing outbound I would know *instantly* this was 
incredibly suspicious. Perhaps even more suspicious than actually seeing the 
UDP packets because there would be a chance they'd get overlooked.

Just thinking off the top of my head, the person who designed Sebek2 could 
have made it much more useful if instead of a predetermined mac address 
being ignored, a predetermined port could be specified. This way you could 
choose an arbitrary port to have things report on such as 30519 or 
something, and have the logging facility listen for that port, while on the 
honeypot itself all other traffic such as their SSH/IRC/etc connections 
would still be visible.

Don't mean to criticize but I've been using this GenII model for months 
already (and I would guess others are too). I was really excited to see the 
article and hoping for something fresh and new!  Just my $0.02


Michael Anuzis, CCNA
Network Security Consultant
http://www.anuzisnetworking.com
http://www.lucidic.net - The Distributed Honeypot Project





> From: george chamales <george () overt org>
> To: honeypots () securityfocus com
> Subject: Know Your Enemy:  GenII Honeynets
> Date: 14 Apr 2003 08:56:36 -0500
>
>
> The Honeynet Project is excited to announce its latest paper, "Know Your
> Enemy: GenII Honeynets".  The second generation Honeynet marks the next
> step in Honeynet technology and is designed to be easier to deploy,
> harder to detect, and safer to maintain.  This paper is both an in-depth
> introduction to the technology and a step-by-step guide to configuration
> and deployment.
>
> http://www.honeynet.org/papers/gen2
>
> Enjoy,
>
> george chamales
> http://honeynet.overt.org


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