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Re: Computing student jailed after failing to hand over crypto keys
From: "Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)" <michael.blanchard () emc com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 02:03:43 +0000
So, just for debate... The 5th protects us from handing over passwords. So they ask for decrypted data to be handed over. Wouldn't that be a 5th amendment violation as well? If police raid my house with a warrant, I do not have to do a thing other than let them search and find what they want or not. If they find a locked safe (and I know the document about where I buried jimmy hoffa is in there), do I have to give them the combination? Sounds like that would violate the 5th.... Can they force me to open the safe, thus giving them the document inside? Does THAT violate the 5th... What if they have a warrant to search the inside of the safe? Do I have to surrender the combination then? Or do they have to attempt to open the locked safe themselves? What happens if this is "uber-defcon-safe-2000" and it absolutely cannot EVER be opened without the correct combination? What happens then when the police with the warrant cannot open it? Am I in contempt of court because I won't hand over evidence that I know will incriminate me? Thoughts? Bonus points to those that can cite cases to backup their opinion/facts... Double bonus if you're a constitutional lawyer and answer :-) Mike B ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeffrey Walton [mailto:noloader () gmail com] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 09:28 PM To: FunSec List <funsec () linuxbox org> Subject: [funsec] Computing student jailed after failing to hand over crypto keys Sledgehammer once again used to crack a nut http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/08/christopher_wilson_students_refusal_to_give_up_crypto_keys_jail_sentence_ripa/ A computer science student accused of hacking offences has been jailed for six months for failing to hand over his encryption passwords, which he had been urged to do in "the interests of national security". Christopher Wilson, 22, of Mitford Close, Washington, Tyne and Wear, was jailed for refusing to hand over his computer passwords, a move that frustrated an investigation into claims he launched an attack on a police website. Wilson, who has Asperger's Syndrome, was suspected of "trolling" the Northumbria Police as well as attempting to break into the Serious Organised Crime Agency's website. ... _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Computing student jailed after failing to hand over crypto keys Jeffrey Walton (Jul 09)
- Re: Computing student jailed after failing to hand over crypto keys Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) (Jul 09)
- Re: Computing student jailed after failing to hand over crypto keys Jeffrey Walton (Jul 09)
- Re: Computing student jailed after failing to hand over crypto keys Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 17)
- Re: Computing student jailed after failing to hand over crypto keys Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) (Jul 09)