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Re: Great new security tech, or fraud?
From: "Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah" <rMslade () shaw ca>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:20:03 -0800
From: Robert Slade <rmslade () shaw ca> Date sent: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:27:28 -0800
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/20/us/politics/20data.html
In view of this, I found it really interesting to note a very similar case: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Controversial+device+popular+with+public+pri vate+employers/4429768/story.html Computerized Voice Stress Analyzers (CVSAs) have been promoted and sold for a least 25 years now. This despite the fact that, four years ago, the U.S. Department of Justice did a study and concluded that "VSA programs show poor validity -neither program efficiently determined who was being deceptive about recent drug use. The programs were not able to detect deception at a rate any better than chance ... The data also suggest poor reliability for both VSA products when we compared expert and novice interpretations of the output." In a sense the CVSA case is much worse, because, since it is a private company selling to private companies, there is nobody to say that these people are a) wasting money, and b) making poor hiring decisions based on what is essentially a coin flip. ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rslade () vcn bc ca slade () victoria tc ca rslade () computercrime org It would appear that we have reached the limits of what it is possible to achieve with computer technology, although one should be careful with such statements, as they tend to sound pretty silly in 5 years. - John Von Neumann (ca. 1949) victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/rslade _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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