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Re: Anonymous not freedom fighters


From: robert_mcmillan () idg com
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:58:26 +0000

Paul,

You write

"Denial of service is not merely a peaceful protest meant to garner 
attention for a cause. Denial of service is forcible and it is injurious. 
It is not like any form of civil disobedience, but rather it is criminal 
behaviour more like looting. "

But is it really? If I loot your shop, I now possess something that 
rightfully should belong to you. DoS isn't entirely like this. How is DoS 
different from shutting down business at a brick-and-mortar location by 
holding a big rally? They're both "forcible" and "injurious."

People are often arrested at these G20 protests, but they're generally 
later released or charged with a misdemeanor. The consequences of those 
arrests are much less severe than in the case of DoS attacks.  In fact, 
the consequences of those protests seem much more severe than a DDoS 
attack. I was in Toronto last summer and the city's center was essentially 
shut down both in anticipation of the G20 protests, and then moreso when 
the protests actually happened.

Anyhow, I'd be interested in seeing you expand on this a little more, as I 
think it's an interesting question.

Bob


From: Paul Vixie <vixie () vix com>
To: <funsec () linuxbox org>
Date: 02/13/2011 06:53 AM
Subject: Re: [funsec] Anonymous not freedom fighters
Sent by: <funsec-bounces () linuxbox org>

randallm () fidmail com (RandallM) writes:

Anonymous are not Pro rights of speech or Wikileaks but are pure web
terrorist in my book.  They hurt the cause of the pro right to free 
press
and speech
...

http://www.redbarn.org/blogs/vixie/rule
-- 
Paul Vixie
KI6YSY
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