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Re: Is Turkey Really an Abuse Black-Hole?
From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 07:47:58 -0400
As far as I can tell, yes. I spent *years* trying to find someone, anyone, in Turkey who would accept and act on abuse reports -- principally spam, but also including phishing, ssh brute-forcing, abuser web site hosting, abuser DNS hosting, and so on. What I found instead was a complete lack of responsiveness as well as personnel who turned over supplied information *to the abusers*. (How do I know this? Because occasionally I munge spam reports to show a targeted address that never existed until I created it. I can then trace all subsequent spam to that address back to that report, and to whoever I filed it with. Similar techniques can be used to discern other vectors by which information in abuse reports makes its way back to the very people it's about.) My solution to this has been to (a) blacklist the entire .tr TLD in every mail system I touch and (b) grab the address ranges from ipdeny.com and drop them into the firewall(s). Problem solved. I don't know whether it's incompetence, or laziness, or corruption. I don't care. I don't have time to find out, and besides, the resulting impact on *my* operation is the same in all cases. ---Rsk _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Is Turkey Really an Abuse Black-Hole? Paul Ferguson (May 12)
- Re: Is Turkey Really an Abuse Black-Hole? quispiam lepidus (May 12)
- Re: Is Turkey Really an Abuse Black-Hole? Paul Ferguson (May 12)
- Re: Is Turkey Really an Abuse Black-Hole? quispiam lepidus (May 13)
- Re: Is Turkey Really an Abuse Black-Hole? Paul Ferguson (May 13)
- Re: Is Turkey Really an Abuse Black-Hole? Maistros Stelios (May 13)
- Re: Is Turkey Really an Abuse Black-Hole? Paul Ferguson (May 12)
- Re: Is Turkey Really an Abuse Black-Hole? chris (May 13)
- Re: Is Turkey Really an Abuse Black-Hole? quispiam lepidus (May 12)
- Re: Is Turkey Really an Abuse Black-Hole? Rich Kulawiec (May 13)
- Re: Is Turkey Really an Abuse Black-Hole? Bruce Ediger (May 13)
- Re: Is Turkey Really an Abuse Black-Hole? Paul Ferguson (May 13)