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Re: climate gate and programming bugs
From: Robert Graham <robert_david_graham () yahoo com>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:35:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Kaminsky <dan () doxpara com> I agree with the assertion that the bugs described thus far are *precisely* like security vulnerabilities
My comment wasn't about the code, but the people viewing it. One side wants to twist the revealed e-mail/code to make it look as bad as possible. They will take every e-mail out of context, and exaggerate every possible coding error. The other side does precisely the opposite, trying to convince everyone that there's nothing to see here. The core debate isn't about "implementation errors", but "design errors". Specifically, it's about whether the code is designed to adjust the raw data to exaggerate recent warming. More specifically, it's about the inability of anybody to double-check it, since these "scientists" do not release their code. We are supposed to believe the priests who say Earth is at the center of the universe, but we are not allowed to see either their data or method they used to arrive at that conclusion. This isn't the production code, although it's related. CRU has promised to release both the code and the raw data. At that point, us coders can start the process of replicating the results, and looking for statistically significant errors. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: climate gate and programming bugs, (continued)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Dan Kaminsky (Dec 08)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Gadi Evron (Dec 08)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Nick FitzGerald (Dec 08)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Dan Kaminsky (Dec 08)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Robert Graham (Dec 09)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Dan Kaminsky (Dec 09)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Dan Kaminsky (Dec 08)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 21)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 21)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Larry Seltzer (Dec 09)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Dan Kaminsky (Dec 09)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Larry Seltzer (Dec 09)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Dan Kaminsky (Dec 09)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Michael Collins (Dec 10)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Larry Seltzer (Dec 10)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Michael Collins (Dec 10)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Larry Seltzer (Dec 10)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs seclists (Dec 10)
- Re: climate gate and programming bugs Larry Seltzer (Dec 10)