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Re: mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?]
From: der Mouse <mouse () rodents-montreal org>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 22:25:40 -0400 (EDT)
"An operating system" in general may or may not be [split into core, GUI, and CLI]; [...]You don't need to go even that far. Just consider NetBSD (or Linux, or whatever) on hardware without a GUI-capable framebuffer - [...]We're talking about Mac here, right?
I, at least, wasn't. The original history was [Paul M. Moriarty]
[...] a Mac is a UNIX box with a great GUI that [...]
[Gadi]
But as it was explained to me by a very nice guy, an operating system is built of three components. The core, the GUI and the command interface. Of all these, only the last is Unix-based.
to which I replied
Well, I do believe Mac OS X is built along those lines. "An operating system" in general may or may not be; [...]
It's true there was a certain amount of "under OS X" context for what you wrote, since the last sentence is obviously false for many non-OSX OSes for which the first is true (consider, eg, System 7 for 68k Macs). I read that context as applying to only that last sentence, and my "in general" was at least partly an attempt to make that explicit; apparently I wasn't explicit enough to make my meaning clear. I'd argue with your "very nice guy" a little even for OS X, though, since there is a substantial amount of Unix basing in the libc layer, which is used by much more than just the CLI; of the three components listed, it would have to be part of the core. /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse () rodents-montreal org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?] der Mouse (Oct 01)
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- Re: mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?] Gadi Evron (Oct 02)
- Re: mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?] Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 02)
- Re: mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?] Gadi Evron (Oct 03)
- Re: mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?] der Mouse (Oct 02)
- Re: mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?] Gadi Evron (Oct 03)
- Re: mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?] der Mouse (Oct 03)
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- Re: mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?] Paul M Moriarty (Oct 03)
- Re: mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?] Paul Vixie (Oct 04)
- Re: mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?] der Mouse (Oct 04)
- Re: mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?] Joel Esler (Oct 05)
- Re: mac is not unix [Re: What was that about hubris?] Gadi Evron (Oct 01)