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Re: cyber-9/11


From: Jon Kibler <Jon.Kibler () aset com>
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:07:28 -0400

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Gadi Evron wrote:
Jon Kibler wrote:
First, your perception that attacks from China are "teenagers" or
"script kiddies" is wrong. It is well documented that the State is
behind a lot of these intrusions.

Begging the question, well documented where?


Some of the strongest documentation has been taken down and is not even
in archive.org. However, here are some of many links on the topic, some
more credible than others:
   http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/sep/04/news.internet
   http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1098961,00.html
   http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5048451
   http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5050285

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/9dba9ba2-5a3b-11dc-9bcd-0000779fd2ac,dwp_uuid=5aedc804-2f7b-11da-8b51-00000e2511c8,print=yes.html
   http://www.iwar.org.uk/iwar/resources/china/iw/chinaiw.htm
   http://www.social-europe.eu/2007/09/titan-rain-?-politics-of-deceit/

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article2409865.ece


You can also Google on "Titan Rain" for a bunch of additional information.

I will add that if you know anyone in I.T. security for any DoD or DoE
agency, they will unequivocally tell you that they are the constant
target of attacks originating from the China's PLA.

One other trail to follow... note that Shawn Carpenter is no longer
persona-non-grata, and look at what has happened to the career of the
FBI agent that mishandled him.

There may no longer be enough public evidence to obtain a slam-dunk
conviction in a criminal court (where the evidence requirement is
"beyond a reasonable doubt") that charges the PLA with hacking, but
there is clearly enough evidence for a conviction in a civil court
(where the evidence requirement from "a scintilla of evidence" to a
"preponderance of evidence").

JK
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