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Re: Continued irony in the UK
From: David M Chess <chess () us ibm com>
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:41:34 -0400
While I agree with you about the actual relative civil liberty severity of Google Street View vs. LE video cameras, it's not particularly surprising that the general public reaction is the other way around. With Google Street View, if there's a picture of you arm-in-arm with your mistress or whatever, it's right there, and everyone on earth can see and point and laugh, and that's easy for the average person to imagine. The "someone in the local constable's office might use this to stalk an ex-girlfriend" or worse "an oppressive government might use this to keep track of dissidents or political opponents" stuff, while entirely possible and dangerous if you think about it, is the kind of thing where people's gut reaction is that it sounds like a cheap paperback plot and doesn't really happen in real life. People's instincts (and I include myself, when I don't stop to think!) are pretty bad on judging this sort of thing... DC From: "Alex Eckelberry" <AlexE () sunbelt-software com> OTH, you're getting one shot with Google Maps, which may show you picking your nose or something embarrassing, like throwing up outside a pub. Wow, what an invasion of privacy. This is the same exposure that you'd get from a tourist posting a travel pic on a blog or Flickr. And, Google will respond and take out or blur something if it's offensive. Compare that one picture to a continual series of video images, 24-hours a day, 7 days a week, which certainly show quite a bit more. And they may be viewed by LE, but now LE knows a lot about you that perhaps should be kept private. And even though it's largely "innocuous" now, CCTV's on every corner open the door to a lot of things that civil libertarians get quite worried about. It's an enabling technology that has far more downside than upside, IMHO, in terms of not only our privacy, but fundamental freedoms. Alex From: Remo Cornali [mailto:remo.cornali () alice it] Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:44 PM To: Alex Eckelberry Cc: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] Continued irony in the UK Alex Eckelberry ha scritto: I just find it bizarre that they react to Street View with lynch-mob mentality, but not to their serious privacy issues with CCTV's on every corner. I find it almost understandable. There is a big difference: CCTV images go to law enforcement or premise owners; Street View goes to anybody. Ciao! Remo_______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Continued irony in the UK Alex Eckelberry (Apr 02)
- Re: Continued irony in the UK Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Apr 02)
- Re: Continued irony in the UK Remo Cornali (Apr 02)
- Re: Continued irony in the UK Alex Eckelberry (Apr 02)
- Re: Continued irony in the UK Gadi Evron (Apr 02)
- Re: Continued irony in the UK Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 02)
- Re: Continued irony in the UK Nick FitzGerald (Apr 03)
- Re: Continued irony in the UK Gadi Evron (Apr 03)
- Re: Continued irony in the UK Alex Eckelberry (Apr 02)
- Re: Continued irony in the UK David M Chess (Apr 07)