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Re: Stop The 70% Lie
From: "The Security Community" <thesecuritycommunity () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:20:46 -0400
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:47 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:22:56 EDT, The Security Community said:Again, CyberArk != FBI and 47 != 70.You missed the point - if 47% are doing things that are quite possibly ECPA offenses, they could *easily* total 70% of *all* the incidents *all by themselves*. Assume 5 sysadmins at a company. If 1 out of 3 snoop, the probability that *none* of them snoop is (2/3)**5 or only 0.13 or so. At that point, an average 87% of all companies have ECPA offenses committed by insiders. At that point, you're needing to *dilute* the insider percentage, not pump it up.
Not waniting to argue who is missing whose point, there is no FBI data on the subject, regardless of what the percentage may be. It may very well be 70%, but there is no FBI statement/research/press release supporting this conjecture. There never has been and at best it is a misreading of the CSI/FBI surveys (which the FBI ceased participating in last year). BTW, there are ~75 Google hits for "70 percent" at fbi.gov, but we probably all know that by now. 100% of them have nothing to do with the 70% Lie. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie, (continued)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie The Security Community (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie Richard M. Smith (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie The Security Community (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie Richard M. Smith (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie The Security Community (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie The Security Community (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie The Security Community (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie Gadi Evron (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie The Security Community (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie Jeff Kell (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Jul 18)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie Nick FitzGerald (Jul 20)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 20)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Jul 21)
- Re: Stop The 70% Lie The Security Community (Jul 18)