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Re: [privacy] Deploying Encryption to Protect Against ISPs
From: "Paul Ferguson" <fergdawg () netzero net>
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:11:45 GMT
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -- "Lawson, Joseph" <jsl () pqa com> wrote:
FTA: "In a few short weeks, three companies managed to destroy the argument that 'Net neutrality is a theoretical issue by demonstrating how it can go wrong - censoring rock bands, censoring political advocacy, attacking peer-to-peer protocols." Isn't the author confusing, as many do, Net Neutrailty with QOS. As I understand it, net neutraility just means that packets will get delivered reguardless of source or destination without degredation of service. QOS is where they are getting into trouble. Isn't it well known that many providers do not let certain services on their network? If you want full internet without their wacky QOS junk, pay for a real ISP.
A couple of minor issues. Sure, the author may indeed be confusing QoS and Net Neutrality, however, but given the current imbroglio with telcos providing wholesale access to law enforcement without proper judicial oversight, there is little difference in the reasoning here. :-) Also, as someone who has studied (and written on) QoS issues in depth, this _does_ involve Net Neutrality issues insofar as ISPs surreptitiously mucking around with the traffic stream, but not really with regards to encryption (and I'm pretty sure encryption would not help much here at all, since we are talking about TCP/IP port-level services -- see pervious paragraph, however). :-) Ref:
http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2007/110607antonopoulos.html
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Current thread:
- [privacy] Deploying Encryption to Protect Against ISPs Paul Ferguson (Nov 06)
- Re: [privacy] Deploying Encryption to Protect Against ISPs Lawson, Joseph (Nov 06)
- Re: [privacy] Deploying Encryption to Protect Against ISPs Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 06)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: [privacy] Deploying Encryption to Protect Against ISPs Paul Ferguson (Nov 06)
- Re: [privacy] Deploying Encryption to Protect Against ISPs John Payne (Nov 06)
- Re: [privacy] Deploying Encryption to Protect Against ISPs Lawson, Joseph (Nov 06)