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RE: mac trojan in-the-wild
From: "David Harley" <david.a.harley () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:51:03 -0000
I disagree. Even if it was for a martian computer and useless, AVs will detect it for the sake of detecting it. Them not doing so is just another example of how useless the AV *itself* is unfortunately becoming--more and more.
I'm not saying that AV isn't losing ground, but it's not really a deterioration, in this case. Vendors who didn't have a Mac product never did mess with Mac malware in the past, and I've -always- thought that was a Bad Thing. (Some people with a gateway/external scanner did look at other platforms, and kudos to them for that). Certainly an area in which most vendors could/should do better.
This means one thing: Apple's day has finally come and Apple users are going to get hit hard. All those unpatched vulnerabilities from years past are going to bite them in the behind.
Early days. But this is starting to feel like the time when those of us who've been saying "Macs are not invulnerable" since the early '90s can start thinking about saying "told you so..." ;-)
I can sum it up in one sentence: OS X is the new Windows 98. Investing in security ONLY as a last resort losses money, but everyone has to learn it for themselves.
Good point. An interesting extrapolation: some may see a parallel between the way OS X lost practically an entire generation of pre-X malware, and the way Windows after 3.x became less vulnerable to earlier BSVs and file viruses. What comes around, comes around... -- David Harley AVIEN Interim Administrator: http://www.avien.org http://www.smallblue-greenworld.co.uk _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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