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Re: Dr. Neal: Researcher's Analysis of al Qaeda
From: "Dr. Neal Krawetz" <hf () hackerfactor com>
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:06:26 -0600 (MDT)
On Thu Aug 2 10:57:51 2007, Gary Warner wrote:
Paul, Thanks for the link! Neal, GREAT WORK! Is the tool easily deployable? Is this something I can load on a PC and look at a boxload of images? or is this a major number crunching event? I've shown some of these AQ videos in InfraGard meetings where we talked about how they are shared and distributed, but I never imagined that there would be this level of manipulation in them! _-_ gar
Hi Gar, Thanks for the compliment. I just got back in town. (I don't trust Defcon networks, so I went without Internet for a week. And SSH over TOR is like a 300 baud modem.) I intentionally design all of my tools for command-line and scripting. Most of the analysis methods take longer to load/save the image than to actually do the computation. However, wavelets (covered in my talk) and color density (not covered) are VERY slow. (An 800x600 image might take a minute for wavelets and up to 10 minutes for density; fortunately, these are not the main algorithms that I use.) I am currently talking to a company about possibly productizing the code. (Right now, it is a very ugly command-line program that does all of the analysis. It is good for me, not good for other people. Version 2 should be much more usable.) Finally, the analysis programs (jpegana and imgana) do not draw any conclusions. They just generate pictures. A human still needs to look at the pictures. This came from a law enforcement requirement: an expert needs to explain the "how". The image analysis algorithms just make it really easy for a human. (However, I do want to build a simple summary system that may not be accurate but will allow the quick "bucketing" of images.) Gar: if you have other questions, send me an email off-list. -Neal -- Neal Krawetz, Ph.D. Hacker Factor Solutions http://www.hackerfactor.com/ Author of "Introduction to Network Security" (Charles River Media, 2006) and "Hacking Ubuntu" (Wiley, 2007) _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Dr. Neal: Researcher's Analysis of al Qaeda Images Reveals Surprises Paul Ferguson (Aug 01)
- Re: Dr. Neal: Researcher's Analysis of al Qaeda Images Reveals Surprises disco jonny (Aug 01)
- Re: Dr. Neal: Researcher's Analysis of al Qaeda Images Reveals Surprises Gary Warner (Aug 02)
- Re: Dr. Neal: Researcher's Analysis of al Qaeda Dr. Neal Krawetz (Aug 06)