Re: UK: Drivers may be banned from smoking at the wheel

["Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>]

On 5/14/07, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:

> > You don't understand "rights" - or where they come from. If you did,
> > you'd answer your own silly question.
>
> Please enlighten us as to where they come from, paying particular attention
> to the fact that "rights" only make sense when embedded in a society, and
> that (a) sometimes several rights, if totally unlimited, result in a non-stable
> society (as a straw man, consider the right to shoot anybody who offends you),
> and (b) for a society to last long enough to be even historically interesting,
> it needs to be self-interoperating.  Bonus points for (c) not devolving into
> the Monty Python routine in Life of Brian, re: "the right to have babies"
> (actually more difficult than it sounds, as it's the logical outcome of "I have
> the *right* to do so, but don't choose to exercise it".  A "right" has to be
> workable even when everybody actually chooses to use it).  Extra bonus
> points for (d) discussing one entity's right to take an action which infringes
> on somebody else's right (for instance, my right to discriminate based on
> some factor, versus the right of a person in that group to go without being
> discriminated against), and (e) without resorting to deus ex machina.

I guess I can feel free to respond since you are - and still avoid our
moderator's rath?

The basic principle of any and all rights is: Your rights end at the
tip of my nose. Now, given that knowledge, I'm hopeful that you can
answer your own questions and avoid our moderators rath yourslef.
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