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Re: [privacy] Are license plate scanners or mandatory RFID cartagscoming to NYC?


From: rms () computerbytesman com
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:56:11 -0400 (EDT)

Larry,

Thanks for digging this out.  It is very helpful.  I wonder if anyone has
thought about data retention policies of travel information in the backend
database.  I'm willing to bet that anyone raising questions about data
retention will be told that the database can be used to help catch
terrorists.

Richard


-- Exempt drivers who bypass the business district on their way to
another part of the city.

And they enforce that how? :)

They're enlisting an army of squeegee men to collect the fee

Actually, if anyone is interested, this is  one idea in a bunch of them
as part of a master plan
(http://www.nyc.gov/html/planyc2030/html/home/home.shtml). There is a
"PLANYC 2030" Technical Report due, but not up yet on the site. The
less-detailed report
(http://www.nyc.gov/html/planyc2030/downloads/pdf/report_transportation.
pdf) says (p.18):

"Passenger vehicles entering or leaving Manhattan below 86th Street
during the business day (weekdays 6 am to 6pm)-with the exception of the
FDR Drive, the West Side Highway, and West Street-would pay an $8 daily
fee. Trucks would pay $21. Autos that drive only within "the Zone" would
pay half price. The charge would apply to all vehicles, except emergency
vehicles, those with handicapped license plates, taxis, and for-hire
vehicles (radio cars).

Vehicles using E-Z Pass that travel through MTA or Port Authority (PA)
tolled crossings on the same day would pay only the difference between
their MTA or PA tolls and the congestion charge, so that drivers don't
have an incentive to detour across free bridges. Because roads on the
periphery of Manhattan will not be in the Zone, trips around the Zone
(for example, from Harlem to Brooklyn) would not be charged.

Payment would involve no toll gates or waiting areas. The technological
backbone of the system would be E-Z Pass, which relies on high-speed
sensors, and is used by more than 70% of New York area drivers.  The
charge would appear on drivers' E-Z Pass statements.

For those drivers without E-Z Pass, their license plates would be
checked automatically by cameras mounted on traffic light poles, with
payment options available through Internet,
the telephone, or at participating retail outlets. Drivers would have
two days to pay the charge."

So yes, cameras and RFID, and it's basically the tunnels and east river
bridges they're picking on. I guess it would drive a lot of inbound
traffic uptown.

Larry Seltzer
eWEEK.com Security Center Editor
http://security.eweek.com/
http://blogs.eweek.com/cheap_hack/
Contributing Editor, PC Magazine
larryseltzer () ziffdavis com
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