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Re: Idaho Killer Holds Encryption Key to Laptop Mystery
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:02:30 -0400
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:25:40 PDT, Rob Thompson said:
A red hot poker about the size of a pee-hole, and he should just have been given the choice to answer any and all questions otherwise, he would be "examined".
Up until recently, we had quaint notions about things like "cruel and unusual punishment". And that wasn't *just* to protect the victim, but also the person perpetrating it in the name of the government. Go read this - it's about torture, but a lot of it applies here as well: http://balkin.blogspot.com/2006/10/torture-and-ticking-time-bomb.html Now - go to the mirror and look at yourself. Are you *sure* you would be able to hold that red hot poker *yourself*? To listen to his screams of pain and terror? To cause those screams? When your beef with him is that *he* was able to sink low enough to do that? At that point, how can you claim any moral superiority over him? I'll posit that if you're able to to do it without qualms, you're probably just as fucked up as he is. And if you're *not* fucked up before, you will be after. There's a *reason* why firing squads traditionally had one rifle at random loaded with a blank... OK. Too squeamish to do it yourself? Now ask yourself - where will you find a prison guard willing to do it? And if there *are* prison guards (or anybody else for that matter) willing to do it - do you really *want* them wandering around loose?
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