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RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses
From: Blanchard_Michael () emc com
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:06:25 -0400
None of their new viruses got out AFAIK, but it happens under the most controlled circumstances. In my eyes there is never a need to create new viruses for testing purposes... Michael P. Blanchard Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 4400 Computer Dr. Westboro, MA 01580 -----Original Message----- From: Dude VanWinkle [mailto:dudevanwinkle () gmail com] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:48 AM To: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) Cc: fergdawg () netzero net; funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses On 8/17/06, Blanchard_Michael () emc com <Blanchard_Michael () emc com> wrote:
Great! Just what we friggin need.... 5500 MORE virus variants....
"controlled lab environment" my shiney white ass.... Arrrggghhhh!!! Am i missing something? Did the viruses get out in the wild? Anyways, it seems like the way talked about on the sunbelt blog seemed better: Take an AV product that is 3 months out of date, then throw recently discovered viruses at it.
WTF are they thinking? I think they must have taken their stupid pills
that morning....
Michael P. Blanchard Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 4400 Computer Dr. Westboro, MA 01580 -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On
Behalf Of Fergie
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:08 PM To: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: [funsec] Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Via Techworld (UK). [snip] A consumer magazine has been condemned for possibly adding to the virus problem by creating a series of "test" viruses just to review anti-virus scanners. In an act that has long been considered technical taboo, US-based consumer affairs organisation, ConsumerReports.org, decided to generate 5,500 "test" viruses to run, under lab conditions, against 12 leading anti-virus software products. The organisation's own website describes the methodology used: "To pit the software against novel threats not identified on signature lists, we created 5,500 new virus variants derived from six categories of known viruses, the kind you'd most likely encounter in real life." The organisation said it had enlisted the help of Independent Security Evaluators (ISE), an external consultancy, to help design the tests and ensure they matched real-world conditions. [snip] More: http://www.techworld.com/news/index.cfm?NewsID=6658 - ferg -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Michal Zalewski (Aug 16)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 17)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Blanchard_Michael (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Dude VanWinkle (Aug 17)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Drsolly (Aug 17)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Fergie (Aug 16)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Peter Kosinar (Aug 16)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Nick FitzGerald (Aug 16)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Peter Kosinar (Aug 16)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Fergie (Aug 16)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Michal Zalewski (Aug 16)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Blanchard_Michael (Aug 17)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses security curmudgeon (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Dude VanWinkle (Aug 17)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Larry Seltzer (Aug 17)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses David Harley (Aug 17)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Drsolly (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Drsolly (Aug 17)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Michal Zalewski (Aug 16)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Blue Boar (Aug 17)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Blanchard_Michael (Aug 17)